Police charge Master of the Devon and Somerset Staghounds

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I think the point is that the law should differentiate between what it considers cruel and what it doesn't. It makes no attempt to do this.

Personally I'd say that chasing a deer for seven or eight hours non stop would be cruel, although I'm not sure it would be possible as I suspect a deer couldn't run that long without a rest. I may be wrong.

I'd also say that chasing a deer for seven or eight seconds isn't cruel.

Both are illegal.

If you want to ban cruel actions then you'd do well to allow non cruel actions.

As the law fails to differentiate then I think that people should just break the law when what they are doing isn't criuel and the police should ignore the crimes where they think the law is wrong.
 

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At least Ereiam_jh will be happy. He's been campaigning his heart out trying to get the police to arrest hunters and suddenly his wish has come true. Congratulations, Giles!
 

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I've been campaining for the law to be either applied to everyone equally or not at all in accordance with the basic principles of our so calloed liberal democracy.

As it is LA both you and I can deliberately chase wild mammals with dogs and the toffs on horses can't.

I'm sure that makes you happy.
 

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Again, another groundless series of assumptions and prejudices.

Why should I be happy that "toffs" - as opposed to non-toffs - can't chase mammals? Which post of mine makes you think this? Please provide a link which illustrates my anti-toff stance.

I very much doubt whether your silly little one-man campaign with your long-suffering pooches falls within the Hunting Act so the whole exercise is just a waste of time.

On the other hand, some hunters on this site have consistently boasted about deliberately breaking the law when out with hunts on Exmoor. They claim the police can't be bothered to prosecute. This case shows that they're wrong. Everyone who believes in the rule of law should be celebrating.
 

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Where do I claim you have said that you'd only be happy for toffs to be prosecuted? Provide a link.

So do you think it IS legal to deliberately chase wild mammals with dogs?

Why do you think my dogs suffer? They love chasing deer. They love going out in the woods.
 

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"Everyone who believes in the rule of law should be
celebrating. "

The rule of law means that the law should be applied equally to all.

If the Hunting Act is against chasing wild mammals with dogs then everyone who does this should be preosecuted. Whether they are a toff on a coat or an individual coursing deer. The law is not being applied equally. Individuals such as you and me are perfectly free to deliberately chase deer with dogs. If you are an organised hunt and you do so. Whether or not you intend to klill the deer. You will be prosecuted.

You can openly chase deer foxes and hares with dogs as much as you like if you so please LA. That's because you aren't a member of an orgainsed hunt. The government say it is illegal. But they will not stop you.

You are above the law.

Celebrate! It's a great victory. You should be proud!
 
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