Pony problems

[ILuvCowparsely]

Wasn't going to post this as yet as still no professional vet checking been done but I will explain the issue.

My welsh A hs always been a feisty little madam - hormonal and some times stroppy.

About 5 years ago abouts she lost weight and lethargic and with intermitted colicking times, she was taken to the vets and with specialist help and scans for ulcer or IBD, it turned out not to be ulcers but IBD. Diet given by top professor in the field, and things gradually improved but regular blood test for albumin levels as they would go up and down but diet helped. No extra feed or supplements allowed unless run past specialist.

Now back to the present I advertised shares so she could be ridden but not an easy ride for just off lead rein but fine lead rein and experienced.

Due to her having several months off (no sharers) I got a really good child who enjoyed her and I made it clear. Unfit has asthma so bring her slowly on , no jumping or fast work for several weeks. All was going ok and the child rode her on the Tuesday all good. On the Saturday I walked past the indoor school and saw them lunging over a jump, but as I was with someone else I did not stop (I should have). On the Sunday the trainer said that with the Sunday sharer, pony was stamping and being naughty


On the following Tuesday I got a message from out on the yard, the child got bronked off, and she tried again while I was there. Same the next time. So I said this is not normal, let me get the Chiro and saddle checked which I did, was saddle tweaked, Chiro said she was very sore over her sacral on the off side sacrial muscles and discomfort there and going diagonally across to the withers onto the near side shoulder.

She worked on her for 1 hr and said she had released the muscle and give her time off which I did. (3 months off) Vet was up for another horse and said pony was sore feet, so I got her some scoot boots as thin soles.



Pony seems fine back to normal in field and feet comfort, but... I had another child comes to try her and pony swishing tail looked angry and such, so after a walk round school with me walking beside. We called it a day and they went home.

Now I decided I must see what she is like with a good confident rider where I can step back and see from a distance. Well an ex livery small and lightweight (25 years)got on her last Thursday, similar bucking bronking but with bouts of her normal trot and walk and canter during that time, after she pushed the pony on, this girl has ridden this pony many many times in the past and her own pony is a bucking bronco.

Well my pony did something she never does with a rider and she stood straight up. She stands up with me when we are playing and for her dinner and she has always done than since I got her ( 3 1/2) and she is now 18.

I really feel these kids did something too her.

The friend is going to ride her again on Thursday to see if behaviour or pain as the kids who ride are beginner's and she gets away with a lot. This time though I am going to video the ride as I have the vet coming next Thursday and be good to show them.

Now I personally think its pain related but she has only been sat on once since the Chiro, and the behaviour was the same. My fear is she can't be ridden again but maybe driven after we find out the issue.

I have no clue what these kids did but she was never like this before they had her in the indoor school and was ridden by them 3 days before with no issue. Normally Chrio comes does her bit- a day or two off and slowly back to work. Well pony had 3 months off and seems no different than before. Yes this Chiro is good as she does my other horses.



My fear is kissing spine or other such bony issue or sever muscle issue. Or maybe something like Cysts. Ulcers I doubt as she is kept feeding very careful due to the iBD and never without food. Also this letteral happened over night this issue.

She is not insured now.

Any thoughts???


Thanx in advanced.

 

[sportsmansB]

Honestly, its up to you how much you want to put into finding out what it is, but she's definitely telling you she's not happy
I have a 12h pony as a companion for my retired boy, she is late 20's now, she was very clear when she was done with work and kids and just wanted an easier life.
There was nothing wrong with her she was just finished, that was 5 years ago and she hasn't needed a vet or had any issues since

If your pony was happy and their usual self for the 3 months off then maybe its time to call it a day with the riding.

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

Honestly, its up to you how much you want to put into finding out what it is, but she's definitely telling you she's not happy
I have a 12h pony as a companion for my retired boy, she is late 20's now, she was very clear when she was done with work and kids and just wanted an easier life.
There was nothing wrong with her she was just finished, that was 5 years ago and she hasn't needed a vet or had any issues since

If your pony was happy and their usual self for the 3 months off then maybe its time to call it a day with the riding.

Thanx, she has very low mileage on her say she has done about 3 weeks work in her life. Just strange one day kid was walk tot and cantering, the next time lunged over jumps, then kid gets on and she turns into a different pony. Vet booked anyway and might get chiro again if vets says so.

 

[twiggy2]

Thanx, she has very low mileage on her say she has done about 3 weeks work in her life. Just strange one day kid was walk tot and cantering, the next time lunged over jumps, then kid gets on and she turns into a different pony. Vet booked anyway and might get chiro again if vets says so.

If the pony has done so little work in her life then no one really knows what is normal for her.
I wouldn't put a rider on her again without getting her checked over, rearing, buckung and bricking the pony really pounds like she is trying to tell you something but on one is listening.

 

[WelshD]

I would be temped to try an ulcer supplement then get the 25 year old small rider back on board to see if the issues lessen at all

When my pony had ulcers we really only noticed a difference when he was transitioning to canter and the symptoms escalated further still when he was jumped - we took this to be a result of the acid splashing with faster work and jumping.

He became reluctant to jump and eventually refused point blank to go forwards. A couple of months after treatment he was like a new pony

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

If the pony has done so little work in her life then no one really knows what is normal for her.
I wouldn't put a rider on her again without getting her checked over, rearing, buckung and bricking the pony really pounds like she is trying to tell you something but on one is listening.

I am listening, that is why the vet is booked for next week, but we need a video of her doing this as the girl cannot be there when vet comes.
The vet needs to see what she does with a rider on even if only on her 5 minutes, otherwise the vet can only go on what she is like lunged and lead without a rider, and without a rider she is fine. She is doing bloods and an examination, she is a special case this pony, she diet is strict by what she can eat due to IBD, I have had her since 3 1/2.

I really do think this is back pain or trapped nerve or muscle.

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

I would be temped to try an ulcer supplement then get the 25 year old small rider back on board to see if the issues lessen at all

When my pony had ulcers we really only noticed a difference when he was transitioning to canter and the symptoms escalated further still when he was jumped - we took this to be a result of the acid splashing with faster work and jumping.

He became reluctant to jump and eventually refused point blank to go forwards. A couple of months after treatment he was like a new pony

Cannot do anything without the ok from the specialist as she has IBD and we have to be careful what her intake is. This behaviour literally happened 2 days after she was normal, and after these kids had her in the indoor school.

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

Ok girl came up earlier, the only difference I did was put her little scoot boots on as ground icy and hard. = what a different pony, one buck(though she always does one or two) otherwise no bronking no rearing, no tail swishing nothing. Must have been it, when rider is on she needs her hoof boots, what a transformation. I will keep vet visit anyway