poor, poor horse...

muffinmunsh said:
Actually, in Andalucia they often give straw to eat ... And the horses seem fine on it. And in Germany they often feed oat straw if hay is scarce.
Anyway, I an always a bit cynical about rescues but I do wish you best of luck and that you've picked the right one :-)
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Well good for them :)
 
i don't want to see any horse neglected or in inexperienced hands if they don't know how to feed it properly , but just jumping to conclusions and assuming the owner of this horse is a complete idiot (& assuming i am a complete idiot)and getting every charity involved is maybe not the best course of action with the information that has been supplied :)[/QUOTE]


I would rather not assume that because someone works with horses for a living or has them, that they have the animals' best interest at heart. To be honest I would much rather make assumptions and to err on the side of caution than to think I should not interfere and walk away.
I wonder how many horses the worldwide suffer because of this failure to get involved and turn a blind eye?
FTR who was assuming that the owner was a complete idiot and who was implying you were also, I'm a tad confused? I don't believe anyone has said those words or implied so.
 
angelish said:
i'd be very careful if i were you
a score of 3 is good, a tb at this time of year is unlikely to look fat
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Would someone please tell mine this he looks like a grey seal with legs at the moment and is only on haylage and a balancer at the moment and he's in work.
 
Oh god, I've opened a real can of worms. I have picked up tonight (Monday.) He is cuddled up in his stable with haylage, hay and a straw bed up to his knees. The vet was wonderful, his body condition is a 2, on a 1 to 9 scale. He had my husband in tears.
He is currently on 4 sloppy feeds a day. To start his vet advised working programme in 3 days time, the vet feels he needs to rest an few days first. His dentist is coming next week.
This horse has definately been neglected. Whether intentional or not, I don't know. Her other horses were thin but nothing like this. I will upload a few picks tomorrow.
 
Good luck with him, I bought a pony in a similar condition a few years back, the owners didn't have a clue and had been feeding her but couldn't see how thin she was. It turned out to be her teeth and she had a couple removed. I fed her up all winter but she didn't really improve until the grass came that summer but within weeks she looked amazing and we haven't looked back since. I've had to cut her feed way down this winter and she's just getting hay as she is a bit too fat.

Can't believe the bickering that starts on alot of threads on here, when all you want is some advice, very childish.
 
Best of luck with him OP, he must have pinched himself last night with his deep warm bed and lots of fibre. Whatever has gone on in the past he now has a positive future thanks to you. Well done.
 
ISHmad said:
Best of luck with him OP, he must have pinched himself last night with his deep warm bed and lots of fibre. Whatever has gone on in the past he now has a positive future thanks to you. Well done.
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Well said! glad to hear he has a lovely new home hope all goes well with him xx
 
well done for getting him OP, i hope he'll go from strength to strength with you. What's his name btw?
fwiw, I'd be careful with worming him if he's in very poor condition, check with the vet to see which wormer s/he advises first.
 
Well done op for taking him in, I would have done the same as would many others no doubt. Now you have him I would certainly look into reporting the old owner as the vet has given you the evidence you need that he has been neglected. No animal deserves this and action should be taken to find out why. Thank goodness he is now safe with you, I bet he is SO happy!!
 
ISHmad said:
Best of luck with him OP, he must have pinched himself last night with his deep warm bed and lots of fibre. Whatever has gone on in the past he now has a positive future thanks to you. Well done.
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^^^^^^^
this
Well Done OP is giving this horse a chance.
 
Well done OP for taking this horse on, and to your daughter too, as if I remember rightly you were looking for a horse for her weren't you?

It woudl be very interesting to see pics and progress of his journey back to health.

out of iunterest, did you or the vet report his state at all? And what were the other horses like?
 
Hi. Whether or not any authorities get involved, can I firstly say well done for rescuing him but secondly, you say you went to look at a horse described as a dope on a rope so I assume you wanted a quiet horse for your daughter. I haven't seen your previous posts so I know nothing about you, and dint know how experienced you are. Please therefore excuse me if what I have to say is completely irrelevant to your situation, but if you are inexperienced in any way it might be useful to remember that your skinny dope on a rope might only be so because he hasnt been. Cared for. Once he gets some decent feed in him and starts feeling more like himself you may find out he is the complete opposite personality to what you have seen so far, and may be a nightmare 'snorting stallion' type to handle - no disrespect to snorting stallions was just trying to think of some imagery that might suit! IF you are inexperienced do you have experienced people around you who can help you with him?
 
showaddy1 said:
Oh god, I've opened a real can of worms. I have picked up tonight (Monday.) He is cuddled up in his stable with haylage, hay and a straw bed up to his knees. The vet was wonderful, his body condition is a 2, on a 1 to 9 scale. He had my husband in tears.
He is currently on 4 sloppy feeds a day. To start his vet advised working programme in 3 days time, the vet feels he needs to rest an few days first. His dentist is coming next week.
This horse has definately been neglected. Whether intentional or not, I don't know. Her other horses were thin but nothing like this. I will upload a few picks tomorrow.
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Well done on rescuing him and I hope he rewards you for many years to come x You have certainly not opened up any can of worms with me as I refuse to stand by and watch neglect or walk away when I can do something. Given that I too rescued a tb myself which was given to me in a complete state a couple of years ago I speak from the heart. As I could never truly pinpoint who had failed her as there were several people involved in her care before I got her, including a very big and well known stud, I decided to devote my time to getting her right again than trying to make those responsible pay. In her case she was given a 5 day course of Panacur prescribed by the vet as he was cautious as her worming history was not known. She was also louse infested with sores, thin under her winter coat and had recently lost her 3rd foal on the trot. She recovered well but is an oldish girl but still has a lot of sparkle.
I would also err on the side of caution as someone else has already mentioned as to what this horse's behaviour will be like once fully fed and fit. However since you will be rehabilitating him yourself I don't really foresee any major problems with this as any exercise and training programme is likely to be gradual anyway and you will soon see how much sparkle this boy has.
As for the previous owner I don't know what to say really since the ball is in your court as to whether you decide to take matters further. No one can force you to. If I was me I would personally because I think this person should take responsibility for their actions.
He may have been saved now, but the question I would be asking myself is that would this person do the same again with another horse? I have been involved with welfare organisations and reported and can honestly say that the people involved have not re-offended so far as I am aware. Even those who were given advice and had horse's examined by vets and other professionals have not done so, so the talking to and educating did work.
I would guess that you may find this horse has teeth problems, I know my TB did, and my vet Thomason and Walters said it was the worse case of bad teeth he had ever seen! At least now he should start on his road to recovery and I look forward to seeing the photos and reading about his progress.
IMO some people really don't deserve to have horses, even some of the 'horsey' types and in fact I have found some of them to be the worse offenders and people turn a blind eye because they think that their method of looking after a horse is the correct one.
Anyway best of luck with him x
 
showaddy1 said:
Oh god, I've opened a real can of worms. I have picked up tonight (Monday.) He is cuddled up in his stable with haylage, hay and a straw bed up to his knees. The vet was wonderful, his body condition is a 2, on a 1 to 9 scale. He had my husband in tears.
He is currently on 4 sloppy feeds a day. To start his vet advised working programme in 3 days time, the vet feels he needs to rest an few days first. His dentist is coming next week.
This horse has definately been neglected. Whether intentional or not, I don't know. Her other horses were thin but nothing like this. I will upload a few picks tomorrow.
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Oh bless him... He'll spend a few days thinking he's dreaming until he realises it's 'home'... Ours was head down and uninterested in life when he arrived... About 10 days after he got here he suddenly perked up, shoved his nose in the air, got comfy, and decided he was home... :)

Re some of the other posts, I was a bit worried myself that once he got some meat on his bones (about 25% of his arriving weight so far) and condition that he'd turn into a 'typical' scatty TB... He might still be very young and behind in his education but he's stayed a softie... Just gained a lot more of a "look at me I know I'm a pretty gorgeous fella" attitude... :D
 
I'm so glad he's in a decent home now. If you are fair and consistent from day one there is no reason for him to turn into a fire breathing dragon! Unless, of course, you stuff him with loads of hard feed.

I have a rescue tb who was scored 3.5. Not as bad as yours, but still too poor in May. She had ad lib hay and sloppy fibre feeds, teeth and wormed and in about 12 weeks she was a new girl. She is still a dope on a rope!

Would love to see some pics and follow your progress.
 
Hi all, just an update... I have posted photos on my profile, amazingly he looks a lil plumper than in real life. They were taken this am. You may wonder why it appears that he is in the middle of a working garage.... He is currently at the very bottom of our livery yard in a large stable built for quarantining horses....

Today I have had the vet again, just because of the scouring. Vet seems to think its the shock of the food!! He is currently having speedibeet & alpha oil, bought calm and condition but he wouldn't touch it... The vet has kindly given me a bag of Simply System 'lucerne', which he feeds his horses with... smells wonderful!

I have contacted the RSPCA on the advice of the vet, not to prosecute the girl but to cover myself. Their advice was limited. I hadn't seen her other horses properly so I was unable to make any allegations, and as far as they are concerned Teddy is now safe.

Last night he ate the 2 haynets of haylage, his dinner and the majority of his bedding! This morn there was def a lil more spirit in his eyes.

Fingers crossed, he will survive his 5 day panacur. I am going to take his rehabilitation one step at a time, slowly and quietly does it.

Thankyou so much for all your kind words and encouragement, Bec x
 
Jeez Bec have just seen the pictures that is one thin horse :(
That person should be ashamed of themselves!
I hope the RSPCA do prosecute or at the very least have serious words with said person.
I can honestly say that when my mare got ill last year and she lost weight she was not as severe as him poor lad :( Perhaps similar at the hindquarters as she went very sloped and in at her pelvis but her back and topline was not as severely dipped as his is.
Poor poor lad indeed.
So glad you got him out of there though hun :)
I think it is going to be a slow process with him but you will reap the rewards when you start seeing him sparkle. Gosh he is lucky he found you x
Please, please keep us updated on how he is doing
Good luck with the worming and feeding and well done on taking the vets advice on this one too x
 
i have just had a nosey at your pics, as your title says ,poor,poor horse . but now lucky horse , i wish you well with him , i think aswell he may stay a dope on a rope even when well as he has such a kind eye . keep us updated , i look forward to future pics as i'm sure many others do and progress reports . well done you for not walking away .
 
So pleased to hear he is doing well! Im on my phone so can't see pics on your profile any chance you could put them on pic forum? Be good to keep updated and nice to hear he is happy now and I hope he brings you much happiness!
 
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