Poppet: A horrid story be ready

[Jesstickle]

But that makes no sense.

If I were to find myself in this situation I would have no choice but to "redump" the pony.

I don't have anywhere to keep him long term, don't have the money for care or PTS. (the cost when I had my pony PTS was nearly 300 for the vet and 250 to dispose of the body, it was colic)
I could provide emergency help overnight/a day or two but beyond that I'd need help.

And in the meantime, the poor pony suffers.

And what if somebody comes forward to claim the pony after it has had treatment?
Without RSPCA involvement so they could make a prosecution for neglect, how would a person stop somebody from taking the pony?

Well quite. What the hell is the point in the RSPCA administering pain killer and then just leaving the pony with some random member of the public? I couldn't afford to just run a spare horse that was dumped on me by a welfare charity. It would probably become a welfare case all over again as I wouldn't be able to afford the blimming thing. Especially as it is going to cost a fortune in vet bills. How utterly absurd and irresponsible can you get?! And then what would they do? Prosecute ME no doubt for neglect so they could add it to their 'successful prosecutions' figures for the year.

OP, good on you. I should call WHW who might be able to help you out. Or one of the other charities ( Redwings or who ever your local charity is). Now the RSPCA have washed their hands of it you might find they are happier to help you to be honest.

 

[MillyMoomie]

I would expect them to help, or provide sensible useful advice yes. (Less of the sarcasm AmyMay!)

Unless of course the situation I have described is not actually what had happened OP????????

And hey, if they don't do as you want should I expect an WHW bashing thread? ( yeah right!!!) it is ALWAYS the RSPCA fault!!!

 

[MillyMoomie]

Ester not a dig at you at all but 'reported on this board and elsewhere...'

Yes this forum is totally accurate and is only based in fact and in fact should ONLY ever referred to. Hahahahahahahaha !!!!

 

[AmyMay]

I would expect them to help, or provide sensible useful advice yes. (Less of the sarcasm AmyMay!)

No sarcasm from me. Just a response to your post.

 

[MillyMoomie]

AmyMay and that is the beauty of text

 

[ester]

hence the elsewhere...

The carrot and Stig debacle was ridiculous though perhaps you were not here for that, although the attending vet was also to blame then.

 

[MillyMoomie]

Ester no I don't recall....

Shame!

 

[Shadow the Reindeer]

It saddens me to think they were prepared to leave the colt to suffer, their top priority should always be "Never allow an animal to suffer".
Sending the boy healing vibes, hope he keeps fighting XX

 

[ester]

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=300933

link for you.. the photos still work.

iirc the RSPCA had known about them for some time, and visited them a month ago, that's why people form opinions I suppose.

 

[MillyMoomie]

Ester thanks, I looked at the first 2 pages and saw the photos . Then the last few pages and got this gist....

Poster saw these ponies and rang RSPCA.

Horse and hound then put a news story up saying that the BHS were now investigating but WHW and RSPCA had attended a few months before and a vet had stated not suffering?

Shadeyoak I don't really understand how you got to ' they were prepared to leave the colt to suffer?'

 

[ester]

I think it was only RSPCA who had attended previously with the oakham vet but it did turn out that various people on the local estate had contacted them several times over the years.

They both improved immensely at Bransby though .

 

[windand rain]

I hope Poppet makes a full recovery


I suppose the solution really is that those who support the RSPCA and are always defending them continue to do so and pay for the pleasure and those who have similar experiences to mine wouldnt give them the time of day which in the horse world seems to be a huge majority
Although I admit most of my issues have been with small animals and wild life which the RSPCA are supposed to be good at.
I am not a bad animal owner and have the RSPCA here but once when a vet treated pony was dying but they were awful, accusing and damaging to my health the vet was horrified by their behaviour
The television hype and programmes further exacerbate my dislike of them as they appear to be a really useless bunch of busy bodies shame really as their original remit of caring for needy animals is so far removed from their present policies they are now just money hungry political activists

I would support them and do donations if I thought any of the money would go to neglected animals instead of spurious prosecutions and fancy publicity stunts

 

[MillyMoomie]

The news story states ' WHW attended the ponies in late August'. 'In conjunction with the RSPCA we arranged for a vet to examine them'.

Glad they improved. Are you to do with Bransby?

 

[guido16]

It amazes me how some people can have so many "sides" to them on hear. I would get confused at slip up.

Must be tiring being so many people..


Anyway, good luck OP with this colt. Fingers crossed for him.

 

[imasmartie]

the rspca are a total waste of time and space pity the powers that be cant remove its charity
status it make them use what little brains they have on doing what they are supposed to do which is HELP INJURED SICK ANIMALS NOT PAYING THOUSANDS OUT IN STUPID COURT CASES THAT THEY HAVE GOT NO CHANCE OF POLICING EVEN IF THEY WIN
AND GETTING A BAN WHICH I CAN TELL IS ALL THEY ARE AFTER UNLESS THAT PERSON GETS REPORTED AGAIN FOR BREECHING THE COURT ORDER THEY NOT BOTHERED ITS JOB DONE!
well done to you guys for helping the foal out, perhaps you should try the daily mail with your story THE HATE THE RSPCA with good reason they are unable to justify why they attend some cases and not others they only helped out in a rescue of some ponies in Swansea because someone informed the QUEEN they then got involved shame on them.
as for the people that support the RSPCA tooth and nail think on this
A FOOL AND THERE MONEY ARE EASY PARTED

 

[Moomin1]

the rspca are a total waste of time and space pity the powers that be cant remove its charity
status it make them use what little brains they have on doing what they are supposed to do which is HELP INJURED SICK ANIMALS NOT PAYING THOUSANDS OUT IN STUPID COURT CASES THAT THEY HAVE GOT NO CHANCE OF POLICING EVEN IF THEY WIN
AND GETTING A BAN WHICH I CAN TELL IS ALL THEY ARE AFTER UNLESS THAT PERSON GETS REPORTED AGAIN FOR BREECHING THE COURT ORDER THEY NOT BOTHERED ITS JOB DONE!
well done to you guys for helping the foal out, perhaps you should try the daily mail with your story THE HATE THE RSPCA with good reason they are unable to justify why they attend some cases and not others they only helped out in a rescue of some ponies in Swansea because someone informed the QUEEN they then got involved shame on them.
as for the people that support the RSPCA tooth and nail think on this
A FOOL AND THERE MONEY ARE EASY PARTED

Could you pop a full stop or ten in there please, it gave me a headache trying to decipher what you are trying to put across...

 

[AmyMay]

Could you pop a full stop or ten in there please, it gave me a headache trying to decipher what you are trying to put across...

You're not the only one

 

[Moomin1]

It amazes me how some people can have so many "sides" to them on hear. I would get confused at slip up.

Must be tiring being so many people..


Anyway, good luck OP with this colt. Fingers crossed for him.

I take it you are implying that I am Millymoomie/vice versa?

Sorry to disappoint, this one has already been done, and no, I have no idea who Millymoomie is, and by the looks of things he/she is from Somerset. Very very far from where I am.

 

[guido16]

I take it you are implying that I am Millymoomie/vice versa?

Sorry to disappoint, this one has already been done, and no, I have no idea who Millymoomie is, and by the looks of things he/she is from Somerset. Very very far from where I am.

Did I even mention you? Or her?

Nope.

And if I just going change my location to Sussex does that mean I am from there? Always fancied a trip to Sussex..

 

[martlin]

What a sad sorry mess. OP, I wish you all the best in helping the poor colt, try contacting WHW and BHS maybe, if only for some advice.
My gut feeling would get me to contact papers, though.

 

[MillyMoomie]

Guido16 whatever you are trying to imply the Moomin and me thing has been done and dusted. Old news. I am my own person. I am seperate.

Are you sucspicous of everyone? Must be exhausting

 

[guido16]

Wow you two are seriously paranoid!

At what point did I mention EITHER of you in my post?

You are the only two who have commented.

 

[AmyMay]

I didn't read Guido's post meaning you are Milly - so ladies chill.

But really, why do these posts have to degenerate so?

Let's congratulate the OP on helping, hope that the RSPCA take their heads out of their backsides and await an update eh????

 

[guido16]

Again,

At what point did I mention YOU in that post?
So for the record, I also don't give one hoot who you are.

Am I young?
I wish.


Why are you going on and on about my post?

 

[MillyMoomie]

Anyway good idea

 

[Shadow the Reindeer]

I've put a link to this thread on FB.. OP - someone has suggested that your friends don't hand the Colt over to the RSPCA as they will more than likely just pts.

 

[ester]

nope, wrong side of the country. other hhoers were in contact to see if they had space before the final visit though it was a bit hush to start so that the owner didn't know where they were going.

 

[Goldenstar]

OP just call WHW or BHS or who ever and tell them the situation. That a foal was dumped, the rspca have given initial emergency treatment but the foal is now considered to be in your responsibility, just tell them you can't afford to have this and ask for help.

Why should they call others they called the RSPCA who if they spent less time courting the tv cameras in fluffy aren't we wonderful programmes and more time thinking about what matters to people who donate they might let down animals like this so badly.
I have removed them from the list of charities in my will recently.

 

[Sukistokes2]

Yes, in the end , after a lot of arguments against, after saying they would and then after the fact, changing their minds, before finally saying they would, the RSPCA have paid the first bill. If you read the first post you will see I say that the RSPCA do good work. In this case it was not the organisation at its very best.
The vet was trying to save Piggy and Friends from being loaded with a vet bill she can ill afford. They did not refuse to come they advised she waited for clearance from the local inspector. They gave advice over the phone. Considering later facts and thethreats made it was damn good advice.

So in actual fact, the RSPCA HAVE PAID FOR EMERGENCY TREATMENT!

Can I also just add that the vet who suggested that nobody does anything until an RSPCA vet attends is seriously negligent and misguided. Inspectors are not vets. The RSPCA does not send vets of their 'own' out to incidents, they call local vets to go out. That vet who was called should have attended immediately if the horse was in such a desperate state.

 

[ChloeandBuster]

I've put a link to this thread on FB.. OP - someone has suggested that your friends don't hand the Colt over to the RSPCA as they will more than likely just pts.

I am here from said link on facebook.. Piggy and friends I would suggest you set up a facebook page for Poppet, posting updates and photos of his stories and progress, and if you could accept donations via paypal I would be happy to help, regardless of what the RSPCA have or have not done, the issue now is the ongoing treatment Poppet will need, and it seems doubtful that the RSPCA will continue to fund vet bills.