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never used it before today. Both my horses spit it out. :-( not all of it but enough. ended up scooping it up picking bits of bedding off it and shoving it in their mouths. horrid horrid.
Anyone elses horses do this with it?
 
My horse hates any type if wormer.
He was so bad I had to buy an easy wormer to get it in his mouth!

Can't blame them, I bet it taste foul and the after taste must last for ages!


http://www.easywormer.com
 
The Camel is weird; he loves wormer. Seriously, he will look for more! Blimming junky pony, lol. Older horse can't stand the stuff though.
 
I've been worming horses for 50odd years. I do worm correctly, inserting the tube correctly and getting the paste on the tongue and holding up the head as detailed in the leaflet. The horses still managed to spit /drop some of the paste.
 
Pramox seems to be particularly disgusting. Ours are all fine to worm, and will tolerate Pramox... with other tube wormers, they swallow the paste and then immediately set to on their pieces of apple or whatever other compensatory treat I have brought. With Pramox, they all stand around making horrible faces for about 10 minutes before they will even think of touching food.

I rarely use it now (more because one horse coliced on it) and do a separate Equest and Equitape a few weeks apart.
 
I have discovered if I give a couple of extra strong mints immediately before, making sure they have been chewed and swallowed, and immediately after do the same, my two are much much happier. They don't get strong mints or sugar at any other time, and I think they really appreciate the taste being disguised. Doesn't work so well if you just give them afterwards as they already have the taste in their mouth.
 
dollyanna said:
I have discovered if I give a couple of extra strong mints immediately before, making sure they have been chewed and swallowed, and immediately after do the same, my two are much much happier. They don't get strong mints or sugar at any other time, and I think they really appreciate the taste being disguised. Doesn't work so well if you just give them afterwards as they already have the taste in their mouth.
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Thank you for that tip, I will definitely try that next time :)
 
I wormed my three with this last night. There were some excellent faces pulled and much smacking of lips!
It definitely has a lingering aftertaste; it took them all a good five minutes to start eating again, which is almost unheard of!
 
I dont use pramox due to colic risk, however never have a problem with modern wormers, positioned correctly no spitting out!

Although the old days of strongid P when getting it out the syringe was impossible used to go everywhere once it did get out!
 
dollyanna said:
I have discovered if I give a couple of extra strong mints immediately before, making sure they have been chewed and swallowed, and immediately after do the same, my two are much much happier. They don't get strong mints or sugar at any other time, and I think they really appreciate the taste being disguised. Doesn't work so well if you just give them afterwards as they already have the taste in their mouth.
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Good idea.
I've never had a problem with Strongid P paste or any wormer in their feed. Pramox must be particularly disgusting. Wont be using it again.
 
Our yard does egg counts during the summer/winter and then worm for tapeworm in spring/autumn. Last few times have been Pramox, I don't have any problem dosing my two, but they do act rather traumatised after and will not eat anything (treats/hay/feed/grass) for quite a while!

Interestingly, my two had a blood test done as part of them being on the Equine Grass Sickness vaccine trial, and the results showed they both needed to be treated for tapeworm (not high level but just enough to warrant treatment) so at least I know their trauma was for a good cause! :smile3:
 
moleskinsmum said:
I've never understood why they can't just make wormers a nice strong mint flavour like toothpaste!
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I asked the company rep this at one of the local open evenings, and he said the active ingredient is bitter and there is nothing they can do to disguise it. The ivermectin ones aren't nearly as unpalatable, mine used to eat it between two slices of bread. I like the extra strong mints idea.
 
dollyanna said:
I have discovered if I give a couple of extra strong mints immediately before, making sure they have been chewed and swallowed, and immediately after do the same, my two are much much happier. They don't get strong mints or sugar at any other time, and I think they really appreciate the taste being disguised. Doesn't work so well if you just give them afterwards as they already have the taste in their mouth.
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I do nearly always treat immediately before worming, but if I try to feed them something afterwards, they just look at me in disgust! But then I do have 3 mares, so probably get what I deserve ;)
 
I used Strongid for Pinworm during the summer, and noticed that (a) apparently it tastes quite good and (b) both myself and the horses ended up wearing quite a lot of it - what clever person decided yellow would be a good colour for it? Fortunately I was double dosing so was pretty well covered (in all senses of the word).
 
dollyanna said:
I have discovered if I give a couple of extra strong mints immediately before, making sure they have been chewed and swallowed, and immediately after do the same, my two are much much happier. They don't get strong mints or sugar at any other time, and I think they really appreciate the taste being disguised. Doesn't work so well if you just give them afterwards as they already have the taste in their mouth.
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What a good tip! I'll try this next time worming is due. The only wormer my lot don't object to is Panacur Equine Guard mixed in their feed. It's apple & cinnamon flavoured, so I guess this must disguise it.
 
Under-the-radar said:
I do nearly always treat immediately before worming, but if I try to feed them something afterwards, they just look at me in disgust! But then I do have 3 mares, so probably get what I deserve ;)
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Yep, my girl is harder to convince afterwards but the first couple of times I just kept replacing it in her lips or rubbing round them until she realised it was good - hence using extra strong and not just polos. I think it is the sheer strength of flavour with the mints the does it. Now she realises very quickly that she wants it and just spits it out once if at all. The plonker takes anything, edible or not, so he is less hard to convince, luckily seeing as he is more fidgety with the wormer itself.
 
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