I dont see what you said as being racist but I guess in the context "mad Scottish woman" it is a little out of place. I mean, I wouldnt come on here saying "mad English person" because the English part isnt really relevent if that makes sense. Its like a point is being made about her being Scottish. But she cant do you for being racist unless you said other things on the phone which we dont know about!
I can assure you we aren't all like this woman seems to be And I can also point out that most Scots are perfectly understandable! The few who are proper, even I dont understand them and Ive lived here all my life
Wonder why she isnt brave enough to post on here... considering she's brazen enough to come to your place to do you!
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Since she's probably reading all this I think she should join and post....maybe discuss the reasons behind raffling (is that a word?) the pony in the first place.
I'm sure there's a perfectly logical explanation....
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To be fair SF, my Grandfather's scottish and I can barely understand a word he says at the best of times, let alone when he's a little *cough* excited.... I can usually make out "Heeeeeland Coo" and he says "Ken" a lot......
One looks like an overgrown chestnut shettie with horns, whilst the other seems to be said in a kind of "Do you agree?" manner....where either of these mentioned? if not I'd have stumped too!
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I was thinking this morning why has she not put her side. I only politely asked questions about the horse which she says you can do on the website. I said i was worried if i won it and i did not get on with it what would i do? People are not permitted to see the horse beforehand, What was wrong in that?
I have a Scottish friend with a realy broad accent, i often have to ask him to slow down a bit, the same as a couple of Irish friends. Normal speaking i can understand but different areas havre different sayings and when said in a rant it is hard to tell what is being said.
I live near a Travellers site - they do call themselves Pikies - and they now all talk so i can understand as when they talk fast its like a foreign language to me.
She spoke very well last night and i understood her very well, all the insults included!
How did she find out that it had been discussed etc on here!?!
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From what she said the ILPH told her.
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wow ok, im quite surprised they told her- or maybe im not, i guess there prob wasnt obvious harm in telling her...hmm ok.
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not sure how the ILPH lady would've known about us discussing it here. i never mentioned it to her, just said i had some friends who had printed off copies of the offending ads/webpages.
maybe someone from there is a lurker on here?
as for the racist remarks, not sure where they were? think she's just trying it on
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Thinking about it this morning and her reading the post i think it was another bluff. Anyone could have read it and told her. She told a few untruths and ILPH are not permitted to pass on such information - who reported. I think they either use this forum and saw it or someone they know uses this forum and told her. I was just repeating what she said but i should have put my thought on it that ILPH would not do it and it is probably another made up thing. I realy would like to set the record straight on that. After the phone call i just wanted to let people know to watch what they put, and i did not answer that question thoughtfully enough, i put what she said, not that is most likely untrue, i am sorry for that. I would not like that said about me. I did say "From what she said" which i meant as purely 'she said it' along with me being many things if you get my meaning. I do not wish to insinuate in any way the ILPH would do that.
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I doubt there really is a solicitor....he/she'd hardly advise phoning someone they've already threatened once that day....
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You have a good point there. When she rang last night she had a house full and had the phone on loud speaker. She denied threatening me, wouldn't let me get a word in and just kept ranting on. I think she was hopeing for a reaction for all to hear. She did not get one on the phone the first time, my only reaction was on here. I had to laugh when she came out with Efin Nigela chocolte cake rant rant rant, i did put my hand over the phone so she could not hear me
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I dont see what you said as being racist but I guess in the context "mad Scottish woman" it is a little out of place. I mean, I wouldnt come on here saying "mad English person" because the English part isnt really relevent if that makes sense. Its like a point is being made about her being Scottish. But she cant do you for being racist unless you said other things on the phone which we dont know about!
I can assure you we aren't all like this woman seems to be And I can also point out that most Scots are perfectly understandable! The few who are proper, even I dont understand them and Ive lived here all my life
Wonder why she isnt brave enough to post on here... considering she's brazen enough to come to your place to do you!
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My only comments have been on here.
I do see your point in 'mad scottish woman'
. I did not realy mean it in that context as i now see it sounds. I meant it in the context of being unable to understand her ranting because of her accent.
She called me plenty of ****English ****** ****
which probably set the seed for what i put on here. In hindesight i wish i could take that bit back.
She was like a screaming banshee.
I did tell her that last night and that is why i could not understand her with her accent.
When she spoke normally i could understand her but she did not like me saying that either.
You realy did need to hear her to understand what i mean. If i had not put 'Scottish' people would have most likely asked what accent she had.
I did explain to her also i have two friends called 'B' We call one Scottish 'B' and the other English 'B'.
I can assure you i did not say anything else. I wouldn't know what to say to be honest. I don't care where anyone comes from. I certainly did not have a problem with her living where she does,
my problem was what she was doing.
Can i just add she told me she is Muslim. What has that got to do with it?
I think she was so livid the draw has been stopped she was deflecting onto one stupid thing i said which was not meant the way it sounds.
It is hard to get it across on a computer the context it is meant.
I realy don't have a problem with Scottish people, or English, Irish or Welsh come to that matter. I take each person for how i find them not which town etc they come from. We are all human beings. Some nicer than others
It would be nice to get her point of view on here wouldn't it. I know i would have if it was about something i was doing.
Easier to rant her annoyance at me i think.
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Perhaps you need to retaliate with a verbal abuse claim?
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I would rather let it go. She did threaten to kill me which was not nice. I am not prepared to argue with her. It was the welfare issue i was concerned with. Some people turn agressive when they have found to be doing something wrong. I have had worse. I am just a sensitive soul, silly me
do you think she'll find me too, as i was the one who asked if you could understand her????
i'm off to dig an air raid shelter PDQ...
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lol
can you make it big enough for two? No, it was only my blood she was after. No-one else was mentioned. I wrote everything myself apparantly. I also rang the ILPH and the gambling commision according to her. Shows she has not been told what she says she has.
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I really wouldn't worry about this woman, she is clearly unhinged and is trying to intimidate you.
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Thankyou. She was trying it on. She never spoke about what i rang her about - the horse. Someone has just asked if i have heard from her but they got her name wrong
So let me get this right you are being accused of being a racist for calling someone scotish??
So where does that leave the English, Irish and Welsh?? Perhaps we should all be called UK'ers
- but then what would you call people from Austrailia, America, China etc - tell you what lets just refer to us all as Worlders
I doubt any solcitor would even take on such a case as it would certainly not stand up in court ..... Oh no now I have put my self in the firing line as I am doubting the integrety of the 'solicitor' - which as I don't know the name of the said 'solcitor' there would no grounds
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.....just a thought but you say she threatened to kill you?
That in itself I'm pretty sure is an actuall criminal offence????
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Goes with the job
Its not the first time and won't be the last.
I was once kidnapped over a horse by three men. I realy truly thought my end had come, long story.
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You're so brave! I'm so glad there are people like you out there who act against suffering horses...
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I am not brave, i am a huge softie. I was once called a terrier, once i take hold i don't let go. Horses cannot speak and it is just a line i have taken. I just worry now what is going to happen to the horse. At least it is now in the public eye and someone may offer to buy it who knows what they are doing.
So let me get this right you are being accused of being a racist for calling someone scotish??
So where does that leave the English, Irish and Welsh?? Perhaps we should all be called UK'ers
- but then what would you call people from Austrailia, America, China etc - tell you what lets just refer to us all as Worlders
I doubt any solcitor would even take on such a case as it would certainly not stand up in court ..... Oh no now I have put my self in the firing line as I am doubting the integrety of the 'solicitor' - which as I don't know the name of the said 'solcitor' there would no grounds
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I am fine thankyou.
Yes i am being called a racist for calling someone Scottish. It did seem unbeleivable last night. Its her aggressive manner with it that i found unpleasant.
I love your thoughts on it lol
It's true what are we if not our nationalities lol
I could understand it if i said something nasty about Scottish people. She said nasty things about English people, but that is just child like behaviour.
I read all the post today and i can't see anything wrong.
Takes all sorts to make a world.
I only wanted to discuss the horse but she deflected to abuse and would not talk about the horse. Her advert did say people could ring
i think it's very sad this woman has attacked S_F verbally.
i do also wonder about her actually seeing the posts herself. surely if she had i would now have some abusive PM's as i was the 1 who reported her to the ILPH and the gambling commission.
or maybe she just didn't want any threatening stuff there in print to be used against her?
i'm just glad S_F is none the worse for her encounter with this erm woman and that the horse is now no longer part of a raffle
Yeah, it's a typical attack as a form of defence attitude, usually displayed by those with neither intelligence nor moral fibre. She wouldn't have got so irate if she knew what she was doing was ok. What person with any integrity would offer a stallion as described by her as a raffle prize?!?! Defies belief, really.
Well done to all those who got this ad removed and who stood up to this unpleasant individual.
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Can i just add she told me she is Muslim. What has that got to do with it?
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Oooh, K**** McK***** the Dundonian Muslim - interesting! Suppose I'll be done for religious hatred now I've mentioned it!
I'm somewhat surprised that she took offence to being called Scottish rather than the mad bit, but hey ho!
lol it is the mad bit i wish had not put, i should have used angry but mad was better.
I didn't find any of your post offensive, SF, and I'm Scottish.
From Dundee, as it happens............
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I spoke to someone re The ILPH telling then , and the ILPH people were quite right to inform them as It was a matter that The raffle organiser had already been in contact with them about , As they had been mis informed re the legalities of Animal prizes, and that it had been brought to their attention the Legal aspect of Animals as prizes.
Before any of the forum users frantic posts , and the raffle was already in the process of being withdrawn, Before SF or Kao or anyone had been in touch .
The ILPH person i know said they have better things to do , such as actual cruelty cases , the amersham ponies , horses going for meat etc! like these poor beasts.
I have spoken to a lot of people who had entered the raffle , and were disappointed to be told it was being withdrawn and they were just refunded.
I like Yorkshire lass know that horses can be bought round about for a couple of pound at some sales, yards etc and dont see the huge Problem , Simply that , Yes you cannot have a live animal as a prize, Although Your Horse magazine has a win a horse competition running and hass run previously , I am not sure how they can do this however ????
I do think regardless of the peoples nationality or telephone manner, Pleasant or unpleasant SF I dont think you can make comments on the forum like Dundonian muslim, Thats interesting, and with names asterisked out on this froum , as I know Poeple who have been cautioned by police etc, for Mis use of telecommunications ,telephone and Internet forum wise , before .
I dont particularly have a strong opinion on the raffle thing, Best its over with now , and the ILPH etc can concentrate on more Important things .
Like the recent Rottweiler attck on the pony etc!!
How shocking, I hate to think of the pony in such distress!!!
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I spoke to someone re The ILPH telling then , and the ILPH people were quite right to inform them as It was a matter that The raffle organiser had already been in contact with them about , As they had been mis informed re the legalities of Animal prizes, and that it had been brought to their attention the Legal aspect of Animals as prizes.
Before any of the forum users frantic posts , and the raffle was already in the process of being withdrawn, Before SF or Kao or anyone had been in touch .
The ILPH person i know said they have better things to do , such as actual cruelty cases , the amersham ponies , horses going for meat etc! like these poor beasts.
I have spoken to a lot of people who had entered the raffle , and were disappointed to be told it was being withdrawn and they were just refunded.
I like Yorkshire lass know that horses can be bought round about for a couple of pound at some sales, yards etc and dont see the huge Problem , Simply that , Yes you cannot have a live animal as a prize, Although Your Horse magazine has a win a horse competition running and hass run previously , I am not sure how they can do this however ????
I do think regardless of the peoples nationality or telephone manner, Pleasant or unpleasant SF I dont think you can make comments on the forum like Dundonian muslim, Thats interesting, and with names asterisked out on this froum , as I know Poeple who have been cautioned by police etc, for Mis use of telecommunications ,telephone and Internet forum wise , before .
I dont particularly have a strong opinion on the raffle thing, Best its over with now , and the ILPH etc can concentrate on more Important things .
Like the recent Rottweiler attck on the pony etc!!
How shocking, I hate to think of the pony in such distress!!!
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What are you going to do with the horse now he has been withdrawn from the raffle?
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I spoke to someone re The ILPH telling then , and the ILPH people were quite right to inform them as It was a matter that The raffle organiser had already been in contact with them about , As they had been mis informed re the legalities of Animal prizes, and that it had been brought to their attention the Legal aspect of Animals as prizes.
Before any of the forum users frantic posts , and the raffle was already in the process of being withdrawn, Before SF or Kao or anyone had been in touch .
The ILPH person i know said they have better things to do , such as actual cruelty cases , the amersham ponies , horses going for meat etc! like these poor beasts.
I have spoken to a lot of people who had entered the raffle , and were disappointed to be told it was being withdrawn and they were just refunded.
I like Yorkshire lass know that horses can be bought round about for a couple of pound at some sales, yards etc and dont see the huge Problem , Simply that , Yes you cannot have a live animal as a prize, Although Your Horse magazine has a win a horse competition running and hass run previously , I am not sure how they can do this however ????
I do think regardless of the peoples nationality or telephone manner, Pleasant or unpleasant SF I dont think you can make comments on the forum like Dundonian muslim, Thats interesting, and with names asterisked out on this froum , as I know Poeple who have been cautioned by police etc, for Mis use of telecommunications ,telephone and Internet forum wise , before .
I dont particularly have a strong opinion on the raffle thing, Best its over with now , and the ILPH etc can concentrate on more Important things .
Like the recent Rottweiler attck on the pony etc!!
How shocking, I hate to think of the pony in such distress!!!
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Oh hello Katie - bit daft bringing this up after it had all blown over but each to his own.
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I spoke to someone re The ILPH telling then , and the ILPH people were quite right to inform them as It was a matter that The raffle organiser had already been in contact with them about , As they had been mis informed re the legalities of Animal prizes, and that it had been brought to their attention the Legal aspect of Animals as prizes.
Before any of the forum users frantic posts , and the raffle was already in the process of being withdrawn, Before SF or Kao or anyone had been in touch .
The ILPH person i know said they have better things to do , such as actual cruelty cases , the amersham ponies , horses going for meat etc! like these poor beasts.
I have spoken to a lot of people who had entered the raffle , and were disappointed to be told it was being withdrawn and they were just refunded.
I like Yorkshire lass know that horses can be bought round about for a couple of pound at some sales, yards etc and dont see the huge Problem , Simply that , Yes you cannot have a live animal as a prize, Although Your Horse magazine has a win a horse competition running and hass run previously , I am not sure how they can do this however ????
I do think regardless of the peoples nationality or telephone manner, Pleasant or unpleasant SF I dont think you can make comments on the forum like Dundonian muslim, Thats interesting, and with names asterisked out on this froum , as I know Poeple who have been cautioned by police etc, for Mis use of telecommunications ,telephone and Internet forum wise , before .
I dont particularly have a strong opinion on the raffle thing, Best its over with now , and the ILPH etc can concentrate on more Important things .
Like the recent Rottweiler attck on the pony etc!!
How shocking, I hate to think of the pony in such distress!!!
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Oh hello Katie - bit daft bringing this up after it had all blown over but each to his own.
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Very true - and she still has not said what is going to happen to the horse
Sirenaxv1, Jemima_too and Jmo7. My thoughts exactly. As soon as i started reading it i knew it was them, not Katie but her mother. The raffle was still very much on when i rang.
Would you like help with this horse? The horses welfare is what is of concern. You have obviousley had trouble selling it. I am happy to help find it a good home. Also please stop buying horses that you are not able to handle, this is not the first is it! You obviously took on something more than you could handle, the offer of help is here for the horses sake.