Probably very very controversial.......... but OMG, why????

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I am sorry, I love horses, period not up for discussion. But why would you put this pony thru what I am sure is going to be a very very long process and may not even work? Surely her pain and suffering should have been ended and the *******s that did this taken out the back and had similar vile vile things done to them..........


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http://horsetalk.co.nz/news/2010/09/032.shtml

I am not setting out to start any arguements, please understand that, but I am at a complete loss to understand it.
 
I agree with you. I come at this from the point of view of someone who's had to look after a husband with horrific injuries. He was able to express his pain and suffering and even then we couldn't keep him comfortable, he has asked that if ever such a thing should happen to him again that I let him slip away whilst unconscious instead of fighting as hard as I did to get him to pull back from the brink, unwittingly making him suffer so much, even though he knew that there was life to be lived, our daughters to see grow up. That's even 11 years on when he is now recovered to a great degree.

Just because one CAN "rescue" these severely injured animals, like this pony, doesn't mean one SHOULD. This pony cannot see a future, all it knows is the pain of now. A secure place and loving voice whilst it slipped away would, IMHO, have been far preferable.
 
That is absolutely horific and I completely agree with you. Surely a vet would see the state of her leg and immediately put her to sleep. I can't see how new tissue would ever form on such an extensive wound.
 
god no, please pts!
fab that they are trying to bo their best however
there are so many horses and ponies that could be given treatment that are likely to have a fab prognosis however that poor pony is likely to breakdown.
my opinion :(
 
mbequest said:
I am sorry, I love horses, period not up for discussion. But why would you put this pony thru what I am sure is going to be a very very long process and may not even work? Surely her pain and suffering should have been ended and the *******s that did this taken out the back and had similar vile vile things done to them..........

I too don't understand it. Do you think that some charity workers feel that they have something to prove and disregard the ethics of their treatment 'programme'?
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Hard to tell in those few pics but that horse's face/stance says it all for me - would be kinder to PTS I think when there's so many battles ahead. I can't see how infection won't get into those vast holes in its legs and bones however well it is nursed. Poor little mite.
 
jemima_too said:
I agree with you. I come at this from the point of view of someone who's had to look after a husband with horrific injuries. He was able to express his pain and suffering and even then we couldn't keep him comfortable, he has asked that if ever such a thing should happen to him again that I let him slip away whilst unconscious instead of fighting as hard as I did to get him to pull back from the brink, unwittingly making him suffer so much, even though he knew that there was life to be lived, our daughters to see grow up. That's even 11 years on when he is now recovered to a great degree.
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(((hugs)))
 
I feel a bit mixed about this if I'm honest.

Having seen a horse at my yard recover from the most horrific injury this year whereby he was staked through his girth and up in to his chest - I am amazed at their capacity to recover from almost anything.

So providing his pain can be controlled, and no infections sets up - he may survive.

Would I want to treat? Possibly not. But it doesn't mean that it's not treatable or saveable.
 
Just found this additional info from the official website asking for donations


UPDATE Sunday September 5th

Sadly, Faith’s condition has deteriorated. She became ill and was today rushed to Alicante animal hospital with suspected internal bleeding and blockages. She is now undergoing tests to find the cause of the problem.


This poor poor pony...................

link here
http://www.easyhorsecare.net/component/content/article/39/151-faith
 
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amymay said:
I feel a bit mixed about this if I'm honest.

Having seen a horse at my yard recover from the most horrific injury this year whereby he was staked through his girth and up in to his chest - I am amazed at their capacity to recover from almost anything.

So providing his pain can be controlled, and no infections sets up - he may survive.

Would I want to treat? Possibly not. But it doesn't mean that it's not treatable or saveable.
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The difference is that he was at home, surrounded by people and things that he knew and had a chance of a full recovery - we shared a field with a horse that did something similar many years ago, an horrific chest injury. The poor pony shown has no chance of a full recovery - no tendons left - so will be crippled if it doesn't succumb to infection.

But I do get where you're coming from.
 
mbequest said:
Just found this additional info from the official website asking for donations


UPDATE Sunday September 5th

Sadly, Faith’s condition has deteriorated. She became ill and was today rushed to Alicante animal hospital with suspected internal bleeding and blockages. She is now undergoing tests to find the cause of the problem.


This poor poor pony...................

link here
http://www.easyhorsecare.net/component/content/article/39/151-faith
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Poor, poor little pony.
 
The poor little thing. I honestly don't see the point of making her go through all this. While I don't necessarily think every horse has to work to earn its keep, it seems absurd to invest so much and put the pony through so much when even if she survives, she'll never be anything more than a pasture pet and probably one with chronic problems. It seems kinder to have let her go.
 
mbequest said:
Just found this additional info from the official website asking for donations


UPDATE Sunday September 5th

Sadly, Faith’s condition has deteriorated. She became ill and was today rushed to Alicante animal hospital with suspected internal bleeding and blockages. She is now undergoing tests to find the cause of the problem.


This poor poor pony...................

link here
http://www.easyhorsecare.net/component/content/article/39/151-faith
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I recently had to have my beloved horse put down.....distended abdo, pain, empty rectum - all pointed to an obstruction soemwhere high up. I was given 2 choices- a 3 hour journey, major surgery and probably several months on box rest- or PTS. The choice was easy to make, but hard for me to deal with .....but I loved him enough to give him peace. He wouldnt have made the journey, never mind surgery.
 
There is someone on here whos horse did something similar, got caught on barbed wire I think? As far as I'm aware, their horse came away ok. However, this case looks worse, and yes, it if was mine, I'd PTS.
 
I agree, as heartbreaking as it must be i would let the poor pony go with some dignity now and end all the pain and misery :-( I lost a horse to colic a few years ago, I had a choice similar to that mentioned above - a 2 hour journey in a trailer to the royal college or pts, i chose pts with a very heavy heart :-( my boy couldn't even get up let alone travel in a trailer and he hated going in a trailer anyway. I have also known and been very close to 2 other horses with serious injuries that have had owners who've had to make the heartbreaking decisions to pts - one big warmblood mare who tore all her ligaments when she got caught in a cattle grid and one beautiful palomino who broke free, bolted, trod on her lead rope and took the front of her knee away wen she went down. Both horses faced months and months of box rest with no guarantee of a recovery.
It is appalling that this poor ponies owners allowed this to happen and just by getting her out of this situation they have helped her but now they should just let her go :-(
 
Argh! owch! Having had rescue horses in the past that have survived and gone on to live happy lives I'm all for resucing those who can be rescued, but for gods sake, the poor pony deserves to go now with dignity and love. :(

I'm so sad now
 
I agree completely. That poor pony :(

And, without meaning to sound heartless, the money that is being used to treat that pony could be used to save many more with a chance of a full recovery which i cant see ever happening with that pony.

If my own horse was so horrifically injured i would probably make the decision to pts rather than put through months of painful treatment so i wouldnt think any differently with a rescue horse.
 
i cant understand why the charity would put so much money into this poor ponies care. the money could so easily go to helping other horses

this sounds like vets trying to get publicity for their 'ground breaking work'! growing new flesh is possible, but tendons and ligaments cant, this poor pony will be a criple and in constant pain, its disgusting and this charity should put common sense and the ponies welfare first, not their own feelings

vvv sad
 
I have visited this rescue centre, and have to say they have done a great job so far, with little funds. They have done so much to raise the level of awareness within the local police as well, and have some lovely happy endings, as well as having a few heatbreaking ones.

Having said this I agree that at some point you have to weigh up the immediate and potential ongoing suffering, just to 'save' a horse, and would second the other posters and say in some cases such as this it would seem kinder to pts. :(
 
Much kinder to PTS in my opinion. As others have said, you can't grow new tendons / ligaments, so the bones that are in danger of collapsing now aren't going to be any better off in the future.

Poor pone. xxx
 
Tennessee said:
Much kinder to PTS in my opinion. As others have said, you can't grow new tendons / ligaments, so the bones that are in danger of collapsing now aren't going to be any better off in the future.

Poor pone. xxx
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It's not JUST the tendons and ligaments. From the look of that injury, the periosteum is likely to be severely damaged - which means the bone 'dies'. Months in a cast, pressure sores, necrotic ulcers - TBH, I hope the poor mites 'complications' lead to it being PTS now, rather than couple of months down the line when its leg is rotten and it's suffered more!

Sorry, but this sort of thing gives 'rescues' bad name!
 
Echo Bravo said:
But having read many posts on here over the months, some cann't let go, even when they know in their hearts they should, so we cann't blame the charity for doing their best.
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I can kind of understand, while disagreeing with it when it is someones "longterm" horse/pet.....there is a much stronger bond with that individual animal.

I've always thought that one of the hardest things that animal charities have to do in many cases is to make the decision to treat or PTS, especially when there are reasons like cost or rehoming prospects to take into account but whether charity or private owner, in a case like this I think treatment is unfair to this poor mare.

However, as bonnie 93 said above, the vets are possibly using her as a test case for radical stem cell treatment.....you never know, we may thank poor Faith in the future when one of ours has an accident in years to come. Still horrific though.
 
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