Problems getting in foal - advice needed

ElleSkywalker

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Hi all,

Am looking for some sensible advice as to when to quit, best next steps etc. Will try and keep as concise as possible.

Trying to get one of my mares in foal, the foal that is my avatar in stripey wellies in fact. Her mum was difficult to get in foal, 4 failed lots of AI over 2 years, 8 weeks out with stallion in year two (we don't think he ever covered her while out), then one natural cover in year three and boom. Foal.

Fast forward to now, foal above is 13 and a maiden. I took her to local vet hospital that specialises reproductive things in April and since then she's had two lots of AI with stallion 1# that didn't take, I then switched to stallion #2, first cycle with stallion #2 they threw the kitchen sink at her which resulted in a hemorrhagic folicle which never ovulated. She was then inseminated a second time with stallion #2 but the semen was poor quality (not checked till after) and she ended up with an infection. The infection cleared after 3 days and there was a large folicle so injected her and inseminated again.

At this point mare came home. At 15 day scan no foal and folice due to pop in 2 days. Going from the first insemination that cycle that caused infection this was correct, but going by second one 3 days later the timing was as little odd. Anyway at this point I decided to have one last go at home, after speaking stud switched back to stallion #1 as he has much better success rate (usually 100%) frustratingly stallion #2 never had a straightforward cycle with my mare.

Scanned today at 18 days post ovulation and no foal, BUT a huge CL still present and no advancing folicles, so we suspect she may actually have managed to get in foal but slipped it. She is being scanned next week on what would have been 28 days to check and see if she's cycling and of course for the unlikely but not impossible hidden foal.

At this point I don't know what to do. Do I have one more go at home with stallion #1 as it seems likely she did actually take? Vet suggested putting her on regumate post insemination but it's not something I've done or have much knowledge of?

Option two is leave her for this year and look for a stud that does live cover for next year, and take her there early in the season to stay as long as it takes. She's a funny bugger and does much prefer being at home, so there are benefits to trying again one more time, but also knowing that a single cover worked for her mum that's my next plan whatever if I do try again and get nowhere.

Any ideas anyone? To my mind both tries with stallion #2 were doomed to failure with the hemorrhagic folicle and the infection so the three with stallion #1 are the only straight forward ones, with what seems like two failures and one slipped foal. Also any views on using regumate?

Many thanks all
 
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Well, you're more determined than me, I tried twice AI with one of my mares, no joy. Decided not to bother. Stallion came up for loan so he came to us and she took straight away natural cover.
Another mare had a couple of goes (frozen) from a different stallion, no joy , but she had never been an easy breeder.
I would always go for natural cover if its available

Never used Regumate
 

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It’s getting late. I’d personally leave it, get her washed out next year and get live coverings (out in the field if at all possible)
 

ElleSkywalker

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Am leaning towards starting again next year, it'll just be painful to loose the stud fee but I've spent probably 5x the stud fee so far in livery and vets fees 🙈 My only pause is that it does appear this time she did get in foal, but slipped so maybe another go would stick 😕
 
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