Project horse website- why I (plus others) have advertised on there...

I think that a lot of the horses on there are over priced, it is sad that the seller has obviously paid too much for the horse to start with, but they can't expect to get the same price or £500 less than what you can pay for a straight horse.

I would look on that site for a cheap horse, I don't do the commercial NH stuff, but I would be a genuine buyer, just have limited funds - so don't try to take advantage of the fact that I have not a lot of money by selling something that has issues at an inflated price.

Maybe NH is getting a bad press as a lot of the horses that it is being used on aren't the best horses/most trainable to start with, and whatever you try on them they are always going to be difficult. But difficult horses are cheap horses and sometimes they end up in the wrong homes.
 
I am a bit concerned about the implication of selling horses on PH because 'you can be completely honest' - all sellers should be honest about their horses, and should try to match horse up with rider.
If the original seller of the TB racehorse had taken more care, then the horse and MagicMillbrook's daughter wouldn't have had any issues to dent both their confidences (or at least would have been able to 'gel' enough to work through them).
I know selling horses is marketing, but as a buyer, I think you can tell when someone's being 'economical' with the truth.
My other slight worry is the 'Give a horse a bad name' aspect...some horses being unfairly labelled when it is the owner who should be a 'Project' (no reference to any individual intended
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). And as someone said, if we can't deal with the horses we buy, it doesn't mean that no one else could sort them out for us....ready for sale.
Good luck selling all your neddies, PH ones or not.
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I am a bit concerned about the implication of selling horses on PH because 'you can be completely honest' - all sellers should be honest about their horses, and should try to match horse up with rider.


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My thoughts exactly.
 
'Maybe NH is getting a bad press as a lot of the horses that it is being used on aren't the best horses/most trainable to start with, and whatever you try on them they are always going to be difficult. But difficult horses are cheap horses and sometimes they end up in the wrong homes'

You could be right, also many people underestimate the years of training that it can take to genuinely use NH techniques, to understand them and to make them effective. A few months of playing games, or intense clicking, if you really don't know what you are doing and can't see the subtle changes, will not improve a horse, they will just confuse and destabilise it further and this is the position that many of the sellers on the site have reached.
 
I got Spring from projects horses and it has worked very well. She is not a bad horse either, but was thoroughly spoilt and had been allowed to have her own way for a long time. I was under no illusions when I bought her as the seller told me everything wrong with her (if anything she was a bit harsh about her and missed out her good qualities!)

Project horses is an excellent site, my only reservations are that some adverts do seem to ask too much for a 'project horse' and others don't seem to be projects at all but merely people that have overhorsed themselves. But its like any site when buying a horse - you need to read between the lines quite often!
 
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I am a bit concerned about the implication of selling horses on PH because 'you can be completely honest' - all sellers should be honest about their horses, and should try to match horse up with rider.



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Yes, of course all people should be totally honest. However for the majority of normal horses, they might have naughty quirks like nipping when the girth is done up, or bucking when they go for a gallop, but you wouldn't necessarily mention that to a prospective owner unless they actually ask because its not really a problem.

Project horses gives you the freedom to air quirks of a horse that would put other people off, that enable you to hopefully find a home with someone who is equipped and capable of dealing with whatever problem.
 
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I got the feeling they were generally slagging off the site and looking down on the people who advertised their horses on there.

SOME people think they are FAR better than others.

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Yes they were. RHT actually said something like all horses on there are crap and should be sent to the sales.

I advertised Taz on there when I had him, although he sold through Horsemart. He was a beautiful talented intelligent horse that had been messed up long before I had him, and had all the potential to be a fantastic horse for someone as he was for me. I put him on there to find the right person for him, someone who'd understand and be prepared to put the love and time into him so he could continue progressing, as he had already come so far.

I would never ever have put him through the sales and let him go to somebody who knew nothing about his issues, it would have been utterly irresponsible of me as an owner.

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Hold on a minute...i said "the majority"...i did not say ALL....
 
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I got the feeling they were generally slagging off the site and looking down on the people who advertised their horses on there.

SOME people think they are FAR better than others.

Its what makes the horsey world so bitchy.
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....but some people ARE far better than others; at least when it comes to horses. However I do get your point and I actually disagree with the other dealer/producer on here
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I got the feeling they were generally slagging off the site and looking down on the people who advertised their horses on there.

SOME people think they are FAR better than others.

Its what makes the horsey world so bitchy.
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....but some people ARE far better than others; at least when it comes to horses. However I do get your point and I actually disagree with the other dealer/producer on here
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i was not, in any way, looking down on people who sell on there..

but i do question the value these animals are given....

i've bought from sales, unwarranted animals and turned them into all round nice ponies...i could get sensitive and think folk look down on me and think i'm inferior as a horse owner because i buy and sell at a Sale.!!!

and i still stand by my comment that most of them are not worth a third of their advertised price....Harsh?
yes, maybe...but realistic.
 
Ah well I'd agree with your issues on prices
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. However that happens on all advertising sites; some folks are just WAAAAY off the mark with their prices.
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of course...

maybe a few who view that site should pop along to a "nice" sale..ie Leominster, and get themselves a REAL bargain!!
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They've probably already been.....

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well, if they have, i cannot see why they are still looking on "project horses".......

unless they dont know what theyre looking for???
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And not everyone can get to Leominster possibly? Lots of the other sales are dire.

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well you've obviouly not been as Leominster certainly ISN'T dire, as you put it.

its well run, have some decent ponies go through, some with quirks and most importantly they are sold at a sensible price.
 
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well you've obviouly not been as Leominster certainly ISN'T dire, as you put it.

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And you obviously didn't read, as she didn't say Leominster was dire, she said lots of OTHER sales were.
 
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well you've obviouly not been as Leominster certainly ISN'T dire, as you put it.

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And you obviously didn't read, as she didn't say Leominster was dire, she said lots of OTHER sales were.

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so she did...that was the same as how i read it..how odd..
 
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I agree with the statement that all owners should be honest about the horses they are selling, I wouldn't want it any other way. (Although, quite often they do!).

I do think that PH is a good thing. I think it gives protection to the owners, in some way because they can be brutally honest about their horse and that alleviates the problem of people coming back and saying the horse is not what they thought. You get the lowdown and if you feel that you are capable of taking on such horses, then go for it. When a horse is on PH you know what type you will be dealing with, not your plodding schoolmaster for a novice. In this way I think it allows owners to get their horses seen by the right people (hopefully) and not be left with a horse dwindling on the market after numerous phone calls or none at all.
 
I do agree about the pricing though... some horses on there are a bit too highly priced for the faults they are on there for. When Grace was advertised on this site (I don't even know how I cam across it to be honest) she was at a reasonable price for a young green horse. She did not have any hang ups, but is quite a sensitive girl and her owner wanted someone who could really click with her.

Luckily, that person was me and I have never looked back... Grace is becoming a really good dressage horse with plenty of potential. Every single BD test she has competed in have commented on her paces, athletic ability and her potential. She started competing in May, and has qualified for the Areas... I couldn't ask for any more than that.
 
I also agree that last time I glanced at PH I thought that some were over priced, but that applies to ALL advertising sites. Look in H&H and I bet if you actually went and viewed a high percentage of the horses advertised, you would find them over priced for what they were - just ended up with a wasted journey! Certainly every horses I have ever viewed from H&H (admittedly not in recently years) has been less than truthfully advertised and a waste of time. At least you don't get that with PH, you can just read the advert and think "I wouldn't pay that"!!

On the other hand, I sometimes read PH adverts and think "blimey if they think that horse is a project horse, what does that make my mare" - who I actually think is a good all rounder but with a few personality quirks
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So in that respect I agree with Papafrita, its all so relative to what people expect of a horse.

End of the day, what does it matter - if you don't want to pay those prices, don't. If you don't like PH, don't view it!
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As for the NH link to horses with problems. I personally think there is a link, but not so much because of the NH process, but more the type of person that it has been marketed at heavily in the last few years. By this statement I am in no way saying that ALL NH people fit into this bracket, I think there are fantastic NH horse people out there, but there is also a high percentage of novice over horsed types who think it will solve everything for them and unfortunately find it doesn't, mainly because they misinterpret the systems into "killing their horses with kindness", so end up with unruly equines that know who is boss (and its not the owners!)
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