pup driving me nuts

kylee86

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hey guys so we have 5 yr old rotti and a 17 week old lab\dalmation. whos very greedy. hes great out on our land does every thing hes told the miniute me come home he sits crying. he throws his food bowl in the front room demanding to be fed. he wakes up at 5.00 in the morning demanding to be fed (of course i ignore him till a resonable time like 7.00. does any body have any tips to stop the constant crying indoors
 
What are you feeding him, how much and how often? With or without the older dog? (Does he feel like he's competing with the other dog?) 7am is fine for breakfast, but if he's starving because you fed tea at 6pm, then he will be unhappy. At his age, you should be feeding 4 or more meals a day of good quality.
 
He's a cross of two very gorby breeds.
Agree, he still needs to be on frequent foods.
What are you feeding him now and what is his worming programme?

If all that is sound and he really is being bratty, is anyone else in the household indulging him? You all need to be on the same page.

My own young dog is a whiner...he gets ignored. Had a lie in. He started squeaking at 7am and I got up and let him out at 8.30am...he did not melt!
 
i feed him aat 7 even through he demands at 5.30 then he goes for an 1hr walk at 10.00 where ill have his food in my pocket and he will earn it on his walk he is then fed at 2 at home via bowl then walked at 5 for another hour and earns his food on his walk. he doesnt compete with other dog as i have to feed them in different rooms as the pup wolfs his down then nicks the rottie food. he will rip bin bags open if he gets in the kitchen even after he has eaaten a whole bowl of food. he is fed on puppy dry food no meats. every thing else is perfect with him he doesnt go on leash hes very good with his commands its just the food and crying thing thats the problem he also finds dead animals on our walks birds frogs sheep mice nything thats dead he will find it and eat it
 
He's a cross of two very gorby breeds.
Agree, he still needs to be on frequent foods.
What are you feeding him now and what is his worming programme?

If all that is sound and he really is being bratty, is anyone else in the household indulging him? You all need to be on the same page.

My own young dog is a whiner...he gets ignored. Had a lie in. He started squeaking at 7am and I got up and let him out at 8.30am...he did not melt!

lol when we got him he was full of worms so wormed him when took him to vets since then he is wormed every 4 weeks
 
What is the brand of food?


With the eating stuff, keep him on a long line and physically check him when he comes across something nasty, I don't mean pull the head off him, just, tug, Ah-ah!/Leave! HERE! and then good boy, reward him with food when he returns to you.
This may end up saving his life. Not being dramatic, but in terms of eating something that could do him real damage some day.

Don't overdo the exercise at this age....if he is foody, rather than try and run the legs off him for two hours (at this age his joints are still very soft and you risk long term damage), get him working for his food, waiting, leaving, being quiet...those are your issues so use his love of food to sort that out and leave the exercise for later.
 
I would say he is deginately being more demanding and certainly greedy, and both those breeds are good grubbers:D
I would ignore any demands for food and instead only feed him when he is otherwise calm.
Also may offer something long lasting up, like a large kong with his dinner in it, to stop him wolfing it down and make him work a little more for his food, or maybe a kong for a meal and a treat ball with his food in for another.
When he demands if it is so bad to ignore give him "time out" remove him from your company for 5 minutes and then allow him back in no talk, or touch, and invite him to settle and be quiet, if he starts to whinge then again straight out, he needs to learn he only gets to remain in the room when he settles and remains quiet.
 
Lead walking should be 5 minutes per month of age, any amount off lead is fine. Please be careful of growing joints. This old rule is very cautious, but is a reasonable guide, IMO.
 
Iv got a lab he was a bit like that at that age. Now its weekends as he gets fed early all week when OH off to work. He will sleep in til 730ish on the weekend then has breakfast let out then back to sleep if we want a lie in if not we get up! Today he is still snoozing now as its throwing it down its a lazy day.
What i did find helped was giving him a biscuit before bed-included in his days allowance. That seemed to keep him a bit less hungry and didn't lead to extra mess. Are u sure he isn't waking at 530 needing to go out rather than due to wanting food?
 
Iv got a lab he was a bit like that at that age. Now its weekends as he gets fed early all week when OH off to work. He will sleep in til 730ish on the weekend then has breakfast let out then back to sleep if we want a lie in if not we get up! Today he is still snoozing now as its throwing it down its a lazy day.
What i did find helped was giving him a biscuit before bed-included in his days allowance. That seemed to keep him a bit less hungry and didn't lead to extra mess. Are u sure he isn't waking at 530 needing to go out rather than due to wanting food?

i do let him out when he gets up at that time and he just stands there when i open the door he runs to the kitchen door pawing at it and going mental on the door i just pull him away and say no but i he will go bkand do it as soon as im out the way. its defenetly greed thats doing it he has a kong that is filled with the filling it does keep him quiet untill its empty lol hes only quiet when he eats. my rotti even leaves the room all the time because of the whinning lol. he only does 5 mins lead work which is to cross the garden then its just all fields and woods s hes off leash then
 
As a fellow owner of a whiner at times (although mine is purely for attention rather than food!!),I can only second what others have said,ignore and remove and then reward quiet and settled behaviour.

I could have mis understood what you wrote but only thing that jumps out is that his last feed is at 2pm?? (seems to be what you said on post about daily routine??) if so that's prob too long to expect him to go until next morning.I wouldn't feed late at night,but for a pup I would be feeding late afternoon or early evening depending on breakfast time.

Hope he improves soon for you although with lab in there you're probably looking at a lifetime of being fairly food ruled lol
 
I'd feed him a proper meal at breakfast, then a short walk (20 mins for that sort of age) then feed him a small meal at lunch time, possibly another short walk in the afternoon, followed by a small meal, then a slightly bigger meal later in the evening to encourage him to sleep through the night.
 
Well I'm going to go against other replies and say he sounds hungry . I don't think you have answered the what is he fed question yet but what he is fed could have a bearing on what he acts like . If you feed crap like Bakers or Wagg that is full of bad stuff that hypes them up then you are making the situation worse . Also the guidelines on the packet of how much to feed are just that guidelines and some dogs or pups might need more than the guidelines . I have never had a dalmatian pup or any other pup behave like this . I always feed the very best I can afford and feed by eye and the ammount could change on a daily basis . I would also feed later than 5 in the evening as you don't like leaving your bed till 7.30 and he may stay more settled . Dalmatians are quite sensitive dogs so that part of him will find your frustration hard and you could be making things worse because of that .
 
Don't feed him on walks, and look to giving him consistent feeding times throughout the day.

And also perhaps look at cutting down his exercise - sounds a bit excessive to say the least for his age.
 
I've no issue with dogs being fed on walks, do it myself, helps with recall, but as you and Blanche say, as long as the dog is getting consistent feeds of the right quality food throughout the day too at this age.
 
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