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Ok so I guess night went as expected, put her to bed and she went to sleep, woke up an hour later and cried/whinned. Think this lasted an hour, didn't hear her whine again until about 5.30am. Felt very guilty about leaving the silly sausage :( . She sleeps fine during day I guess that's because when she wakes we are about.
Obviously night 2 is looming....
Wondering whether to do same as last night and ignore any whinning etc or whether to try something new. I do have a puppy kong for her am wondering whether to stuff it with some goodies, and put in near bed when she's asleep so when she wakes has got something to do to tire herself out.

Does this sound like will help? Any safe treats I can put in it that aren't too fattening?
Looking in cupboards I have banana, carrots (uncooked at present) honey, got some shippams beef paste, prince chicken paste (sandwich fillings) or tin of rice pudding, or is peanut butter the recommended choice (don't think I have any of that)

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careful with peanut butter-just a tiny bit, if any while she's still so wee. I just stick some liver paste (Arden Grange-Amazon Prime lol) in mine or a bit of wet dog food. If she eats too much in the middle of the night,she'll want to go out too.

Try and get her used to being left during the day-just for short periods, just after she's been let out for wees etc. once she knows you're still about, and are coming back she should settle down. Like I said, I had mine in the room with me for three nights but he was getting himself wound up, not just whining a bit. He was completely fine after that-he'd been used to being in kennels with 12 other dogs so it was understandable. I just crate trained during the day early on and left him for short periods and built it up slowly-only going back when he was quiet (pre-empting any whining).
 
Perhaps the most important lesson that a puppy will learn, is to be left alone and there's only one way to achieve that. Feeding treats will only make you feel better, the puppy simply won't understand the point to it, except that whining has achieved its results. I'd strongly advise that you don't make a rod for your own back, and for the puppy to beat you with!

If she whinged for a bit last night, you may well find that tonight she's entirely quiet.

Alec.
 
If she eats treats, she will want to pee or poo...just shut the door and walk away.
I also think I read that peanut butter is now made withsomethnig that is bad for dogs? Or did I dream that?
 
Don't know if she whimpered more than few hours, but she didn't wake me up.
She does have time alone when she goes to sleep. I just tried shutting door to her room after she'd had a wee and she started whimpering straight away, I left her couple minutes and then when there was a period of 5 secs ish I opened door.
She was playing with her toy 3m from me but has curled up under me on floor, she seems very dependant on someone being near.

How much should I let her sleep during day? Is it as much as she wants or should I try to keep her awake more. :)
 
ldlp111 said:
She was playing with her toy 3m from me but has curled up under me on floor, she seems very dependant on someone being near.

How much should I let her sleep during day? Is it as much as she wants or should I try to keep her awake more. :)
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how old is she?

She will be dependent on someone/thing being near-she'll have had littermates and mum still about? She will get more independent in a couple of weeks-its a huge change for her all around and you are the only constant right now and also in charge of food.


Let her sleep as much as she wants-the ratio of being awake to be asleep will change soon enough and then the fun really begins ;)
 
ldlp111 said:
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How much should I let her sleep during day? Is it as much as she wants or should I try to keep her awake more. :)
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Sleep allows a puppy to recharge its batteries. Sleep is a vital part of a puppy's routine, and if they have more than you think that they need, then during their waking hours perhaps too much is being asked of them. Sleep, for puppies, lambs, foals and human babies is vital. NEVER interfere with a puppy's sleep pattern, would be my advice.

Alec.
 
Clodagh said:
If she eats treats, she will want to pee or poo...just shut the door and walk away.
I also think I read that peanut butter is now made withsomethnig that is bad for dogs? Or did I dream that?
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I think you're thinking of Palm Oil? which I believe is harmful to dogs - but you can find it made without.
 
Yes, she will want to be with you - naturally, so don't discourage it. And as others have said, let her sleep as much as she wants. As for a treat when she wakes - I wouldn't want her to have one either.

Sounds like last night went pretty well. The 5.30 wimpering may have been a signal that she wanted to go to toilet. I used to set my alarm at around 2.00am to take Daisy out for a pee for the first couple of weeks, and then up again at 6.00.
 
Clodagh said:
I also think I read that peanut butter is now made withsomethnig that is bad for dogs? Or did I dream that?
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Xylitol, potentially fatal. There are versions without, of course.

PucciNPoni said:
I think you're thinking of Palm Oil? which I believe is harmful to dogs - but you can find it made without.
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If it's in great toxic lumps washed up on the beach-happened somewhere down south-then yes. Otherwise, I think it's ok.

Puppies can't hold on all night, she will not have bladder control for some weeks. If you put her to bed at say 11 or 12, it's not reasonable to expect her to hold on til 5.30.
 
Mine have always held on all night. 10.30 - 5am at 7 weeks. I am mean, but I'm meaner if I am sleep deprived.
 
Clodagh said:
Mine have always held on all night. 10.30 - 5am at 7 weeks. I am mean, but I'm meaner if I am sleep deprived.
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Same here, my puppy has been fine since I got him, no accidents at all, I am getting up earlier than usual to let him out but he never seems desperate to go even after being left all night. By getting up to let the pup out every few hours you are training him/her to wake up through the night, if they are tired I see no reason why they can't sleep through.
 
i disagree with `training to wake in the night`
every thing his new to him and offering a chance to wee just for a couple of weeks whilst settling into to new home an routine,i feel is the right thing to do.
 
Cahill said:
i disagree with `training to wake in the night`
every thing his new to him and offering a chance to wee just for a couple of weeks whilst settling into to new home an routine,i feel is the right thing to do.
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I agree. Daisy certainly didn't become trained to 'wake' in the night. But like all things I suppose eople do what works for them and their pup.
 
Hi all thanks for all the replies, she is 8 weeks. Just been to have her first jab, she was not impressed yelped for a few mins, she also has fleas :( so had flea treatment and will give her worming tab in couple days. Also now need to treat the house for fleas :( .
She isn't crated, but has the run of the utility room, I don't expect her to hold herself all night, but she doesn't ask to go out or whimper when she needs a wee/poo during day so don't think she would whimper for that overnight either (I do have puppy pads/newspaper down).
Stayed up late last night to get her up to go out for wee etc, we very unhelpfully had some drunk idiot drive down to our house with a flat tyre making awful noise and they beeped their horn up until this point she was asleep :( she whimpered then on/off. I'm pretty sure she's on because she's alone not because she needs toilet.
I'm knackered now may join pup and have a siesta ;)
 
CAYLA said:
Would you like a puppy guide? If you pm me your email I will send you one. :)
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Would love one :) thanks

We had to take her to vet this morning as she was sick last night and gone off her food, think because she had jab, seems fine again now :)

Our third was not peaceful either :( whimpering from 3am onwards. Wondering whether to try getting up every couple of hours and see if we get peaceful night :)
 
See if you can get hold of a copy of The Perfect Puppy by Gwen Bailey. It is really helpful for first time dog owners (assuming you are).

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Perfect-Puppy-Take-Britains-Number/dp/060061722X

Is there a reason your pup cannot be in a dog bed or crate in your bedroom initially? I know it isn't viable for everyone but I always have my pups in my bedroom in their own bed for the first few weeks. It helps them feel secure knowing you are nearby, and they can wake you with noises or movement when they are likely to want to go out.

If, in time, you are wanting her to sleep alone then once she is in a good night time pattern, you start slowly and gradually moving her bed out of your room (say, first by the bedroom door, then outside in the hallway etc etc) until she is sleeping contentedly wherever you wish her to be.
 
CAYLA said:
Would you like a puppy guide? If you pm me your email I will send you one. :)
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Completely recommend Cayla's puppy guide. Got me on the right tracks very quickly after a long time without a family dog. Now have two youngish labradors who although I say it myself, are calm, obedient, quiet, don't jump up - but are massive fun to have around and are brilliant gun dogs.
 
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