Puppy’s first season!

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Our puppy came into season Christmas eve, but she is being a little messy not cleaning her self very well and we are being left with a littler a mess around the house, seem to be walking around after her cleaning up.

This is upsetting for my dog that has not been castrated yet. We have brought her some hygiene pants from pet’s city which fit her lovely, has anyone else used these before and what do they think of them?
 
Do u mean , as in spotting blood around the house?
If so, she cannot help this, it's natural, she will not lick it all up
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, unless im understanding that wrong
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Your boy will of course be unsettled and no doubt been driven crazy, please make sure u keep them apart, are u neutering either of them?

The pants are a good idea, or maybe placing her in a crate, to stop any unwanted pregnancy, and excess mess, re blood, or the pants as u are using.
 
Off cause im aware she can’t help it, that’s one of the reasons I have brought the hygiene pants for the spotting that I miss!! Another reason why my boy is going crazy!

My bitch is not ready to be mated as she is not standing yet and until this time she will NOT let him mate her!

As for putting her in her grate for 3 weeks, I don’t think that is fair on her!!

My boy will be neutered, but not before he is 18 months!!

As for the bitch I wish to breed from her at a later date!
 
Well soreeeee!!!, by the first post u sounded clueless, your second, even more so
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Never tried the hygene pants...lol
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Your boy would go crazy whether she spots or not, he does not need a trail of blood for him to become aroused/frustrated by the hormone change he senses, caused by her season!

So it is unfair to crate her, but not to parade her around infront of your un-neutered frustrated entire dog
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CALA....refrains from offering advice
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Yes I agree but even when they are separated, the smell of her is still around! Un-neutered dogs are not silly, im greeted with a same dog each morning at my door step wanting to come in to say hello to her!! She is never paraded around him. Don’t what gave you that idea!
 
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Yes I agree but even when they are separated, the smell of her is still around! Un-neutered dogs are not silly, im greeted with a same dog each morning at my door step wanting to come in to say hello to her!! She is never paraded around him. Don’t what gave you that idea!

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But the dog that greets her.....does not live in he same house.....he simply greets her at he door, once a day
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I got the idea, from u stating him getting frustrated re her spotting.......and I know they are not silly.......hence why I stated, he does not need a blood trail to sense her season
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Atleast when crated, he does not have to follow her trail or pester her or catch her accidentally!

Hopefully the nappy will stop all this then
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good luck
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I don't think Cala meant crating her for 3 weeks constantly, just when you weren't able to keep them separate. A couple of points, you may already know this, but just cos she is not standing for him at this minute does not mean she won'tchange her mind in a blink. I have had bitches trying to kill our stud dog, and as the owners start to take them away they suddenly stand and wham, bam if you see what I mean
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I also had a bitch that mated and conceived at her 26 day of season, when she appeared to be totally over, i.e. no colour and very little swelling.
 
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I don't think Cala meant crating her for 3 weeks constantly, just when you weren't able to keep them separate. A couple of points, you may already know this, but just cos she is not standing for him at this minute does not mean she won'tchange her mind in a blink. I have had bitches trying to kill our stud dog, and as the owners start to take them away they suddenly stand and wham, bam if you see what I mean
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I also had a bitch that mated and conceived at her 26 day of season, when she appeared to be totally over, i.e. no colour and very little swelling.

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Thank you for all your replies:

Yes I am aware things can change in a second, can go terrible wrong! My mother in-law has breed and showed dogs for the last 20 years around me, although now she is getting older she not breed a litter for the last five years!!


Back to my OP i was asking for information on the hygiene pants! As she has never used them before!
 
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Can I ask why you're not neutering the dog until he's 18 months old?

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Of course you can, taking advice from my in-laws really; she believes that neutering a dog before then, is confusing not knowing if he is an adult or puppy!


He will be done when he is 18months, I do not wish to breed from him!

He is currently 16 months, so not long to go!
 
I'm confused, are you hoping she will change her mind and allow to be mated? As you say she is a puppy...what age is she? Are you wanting to breed from her this season or when she is older?
 
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I'm confused, are you hoping she will change her mind and allow to be mated? As you say she is a puppy...what age is she? Are you wanting to breed from her this season or when she is older?

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No I not hoping she will change her mind and be mated, she is far too young to be having a litter of puppies, she is only still a puppy her self.

She is currently 8 months, and I hope to breed from her in the future.
 
Interesting. Have to say I don't agree with your in-laws. The longer you leave a dog un-neutered the more likely the levels of testosterone will have gotten to quite a high level, meaning a higher risk of being territorial and defensive (angry!).

When I was a VN, we recommended 6months for both dogs and bitches.
 
I must admit I don't agree with very early neutering, I've always thought it sort of suspends their development. Brandy will be spayed after her first season.
So is that just an old wives tale then?
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I do think its a bit mean letting a unneutered dog to 'hang out' with an in season bitch, must be like a man being tempted like mad then told no, has got to make him stressed out.
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I was always taught that you should let a bitch have one season before spaying but apparently that's quite old fashioned and they now recommend to get it done before their first season.

Not sure about males though, as our only boy was kept entire
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She is a JRT (short legged) I have posted pictures of both dogs in this section before, when they were both younger though.

I agree with you clodagh about letting a un neutered dog to 'hang out' with an in season bitch, I never said I did.
 
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Interesting. Have to say I don't agree with your in-laws. The longer you leave a dog un-neutered the more likely the levels of testosterone will have gotten to quite a high level, meaning a higher risk of being territorial and defensive (angry!).

When I was a VN, we recommended 6months for both dogs and bitches.

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Oh, I'm glad it's not ust me who thought that.
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My first thought was that surely the longer a male is left, the more 'male' he will be, as in aggressive, territorial etc. Given that alot of people neuter males to stop these traits, I'd have thought earlier neutering would be preferred.
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Me too, 6 for a girl and 9 for a boy..months that is
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....each to their own.......I do think if u have 2 dogs under the same roof that can mate and produce at such a risky young age, neutering should be done earlier, common sense really.............have always neutered b4 a first season, and when plumbs are developed enough to be removed
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Since neutering ca reduce the risk of cancer in both males and females it is advisable to do each sex at approx 6mths. After 1 year entire, the risk increases substantially but there is still a benefit until the dog/bitch is too. After this the effect neutering will have on the risk of caner is negligible.
On the flip side, spaying/castrating bfore 6mths of age you risk genital hypoplasia and it may also make it a bit more difficult to ensure all of the uterine/testicular tissue is removed - depending on the sze of your dog lor cat.
Personally Ive just had 2 kittens and a pup done in the last 3mths. Both kittens are female and as they live in the stables and there are quie a few stray/semi-ferl males around, we spayed them at between 5-6mths. The pup was NOT the runt of the litter, however he was a very late developer and it took quite a few months for his balls to drop completely! He also peed like a girl until 7mths of age and showed no interest in females above the norm of any castrated animal. Hence we did him 3 weeks ago at 9mths of age. He is however a house dog in a well secured (walled) garden when at college so no fear of him escaping. He is now down the country with me and enjoying his freedom. If I hadnt had him cut, he wouldn be able to enjoy his freedom down here.
Giving a bitch her first heat only increases her risk of cancer at a later stage. As does leaving it til 18mths to castrate a dog. Whilst vetscolleges are advising approx 6mths for each nowadays, this can be adjusted by a few months on an individual basis. Given how few owners are actually able to manage and control their dogs properly, i wouldnt/wont be condone(ing) leaving a dog entire for more than a year.
 
Firstly can I apologise if I upset you anyway, it was not meant to, and at the start I couldn’t understand why you were jumping at me! Maybe it had something to do with the explanation marks I use. Not because I was angry, I just use them, by using them I think many people were thinking I was being rude and I wasn’t.

Yes I have got 2 dogs under the same roof with one being in season, but they don’t mean that they will end up mating. We have a dog stair gate at present that we are using, during the day which seems to be working fine, she is put in a Crate at bedtime or when we go out. The hygiene pant was just for her messing. The dog isn’t interested at all in her atm and is getting more stressed over what she is leaving behind, when he passes for his turn for the garden.

I have spoken to the vet about him being done at 18 months and they didn’t seem too bothered. TBH with you he was booked in at 6 months but mil went mad saying i should wait till he is 18 months, and that’s what I have done.

Has that made my post a little more clearly for you?
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Interesting. Have to say I don't agree with your in-laws. The longer you leave a dog un-neutered the more likely the levels of testosterone will have gotten to quite a high level, meaning a higher risk of being territorial and defensive (angry!).



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Ditto. If done early enough too the dog may never cock its leg.
 
Im asuming that was aimed at me.....I replied to your first post, as u gave the impression, that u thought a bitch would clean up after herself and not be so messy
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, then that u thought this was the reason your dog was becoming frustrated
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, I simply gave an explination to both, and in fairness, in my second post...I did state I have never used a bitch nappy
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