Q for all full liveries?

Rate at our yard is £750 - all on the website (denbies livery yard) so no secrets! The full liveries have everything done, so the owner just can come down to ride. Yard also will prepare full liveries horse for shows as well.
 
You'll get huge variations depending on where about in the country people are
I'm £70 a week and buy my own shavings/wood pellets.
We have an indoor and an outdoor school, year round turn out (when the grass isn't under 3ft of snow) if due to snow they're not out in the field they go out into the indoor school in pairs with 3 haynets (none in corners!!!).
Horse gets rug changed, quick brush, feet picked out, fed twice a day, relevant medications put in feed, shoeing sorted out (I'm advised beforehand so money can be left).
I know the person on the yard very well (know her over 16years) so quite happy in my knowledge that she's still looked after very well even if I don't make it up (i work 2 jobs so some evenings i work as well as being in the office all day).
 
Lisamd said:
What is the going rate on average?
What does it include? (feed/bedding/riding)

As a provider of full livery - what are the pro's/con's
As a full livery customer, what do you look for?

Thanks :)
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I charge £85 without and £124 with exercise per week. I'm about average to top prices in the area.
It includes stabling, grazing, ad lib forage, basic hard feed and shavings bedding, use of all facilities etc. The exercise is 6 times a week and is a mixture of walker/lunging and hacking, no schooling though - for that I have schooling liveries at different price.

Pro's -
all horses fed and turned out at the same time,
limited traffic on the yard
no need for extra storage for feed/bedding/forage etc and million wheelbarrows
tidy barn, no arguments about sweeping etc
better return on my investment (well, sort of)

Con's -
I have to do the mucking out,
no lie ins
no days out
no social life :D
 
Luci07 said:
Rate at our yard is £750 - all on the website (denbies livery yard) so no secrets! The full liveries have everything done, so the owner just can come down to ride. Yard also will prepare full liveries horse for shows as well.
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That would get you a really nice mortgage up here, I feel like I should increase my livery!!!
My version of full livery is closer to your version of part livery, although the YO owners kids do ride my horse (well they kind of sit on her and she takes the piss and gallops round the arena, at 23yo she should really be past all that!!!)
 
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I paid £130 P/W (Full schooling livery) to include bedding, feed, haylage, riding 5 days a week.

I look for good quality facilities (doesn't have to be modern just well looked after) and most importantly well, happy horses on good clean bedding.

I'd also like the rider to have some sort of experience (not necessarily competition) and a good style as well.
 
The yard im on (I am a DIY) is £75 p/w full livery, we have large school, full set of SJs, XC course and 90 acres of farm land in summer, all weather sand track, and all year turn out (not always on grass but have bark turnout areas)
Livery includes adlib hay/haylage, straw and hardfeed, dealing with farrier and vet etc. Exercise is extra :)
 
Naryafluffy said:
That would get you a really nice mortgage up here, I feel like I should increase my livery!!!
My version of full livery is closer to your version of part livery, although the YO owners kids do ride my horse (well they kind of sit on her and she takes the piss and gallops round the arena, at 23yo she should really be past all that!!!)
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ah, we are in Surrey so the basics (rent etc) are a lot more than in Scotland!

I do think that often people on this forum mix up "part" and "full" livery. Full livery means 1 cost and everything done for you, from grooming, tackcleaning, exercise to prepping the horse to go out - does not cover vet/shoeing/supplement fees.

I am on part livery so groom, tack clean, and exercise mine. There is also (quite importantly - have been well and truly stung before on this) no HIDDEN extras!!! like a previous yard where it was £1 per section for extra hay ( 10 years ago). The yard also does a lot of me, such as when Billy became very sick. There was no question of them backing off to leave me to sort out the vet, they well and truly went over what I expected in terms of support and care. Including being very kind about his manners rapidly going as he is in the recovery/not quite ready for full work stage.
 
Full Livery term does get confusing, I always thought (over 30years) full livery was THE LOT, food bedding riding Everything.

Part livery was everything except riding. Both would exclude shoe bills, vet, wormer bills etc - charged extra.

Then us DIY's struggle on...:D with services
 
OH has various packages from £115 per week to £180 per week depending on what the owner wants done. The basic package is x7 days, bedding, feed and forage, turn in/ out, rug change, feet picked out, holding for farrier, vet etc and usually (although it's not supposed to be included) doing minor vet treatment - changing bandages, poulticing, walking out in hand etc. At the top of the range, all you have to do is turn up, ride and then hand your horse back.

Extras - farrier, vet, wormers, supplements are not included.

From the YOs perspective, you need to staff it, including with people capable of riding the horses; owners sometimes have rather different ideas as to what their horses need; sometimes horses turn up with no manners and you need to be able to cope with that and teach them.
 
I am on part livery on a small yard in Essex and pay £470 a month on woodchips (£440 on straw). We have genuine all year turnout and horses are out all day and in at night. 40x20 outdoor school with floodlights and excellent hacking.

What's not included: riding, grooming, tack cleaning, vet fees, farrier fees, worming etc.
 
I think it depends were in the country you are on prices and what's included in the full livery.
In the north west I paid for 17.2 80 pw but had to pay extra for feed as it was one that they did not store, that was fir an allocated hay, straw no grooming. Occasional feet picked out depending on what staff.
South west I've looked at 100-150 for 16.2 that was for everything except riding but walker on yards that had them included
 
Kali is on full livery, plus schooling 3x/week. I pay £708/month. For that I get:

- bring in/turn out (Kal currently goes out at night for well over 12 hours)
- feet picked out x2/day
- hard feed
- haylage/hay
- bedding (straw/shavings)
- all rugging/booting and veterinary care (cold hosing, giving medication, applying any topical medication, bandaging)
- quick brush off once a day
- bandages, numnahs, summer sheets, girth sleeves, boots and anything else that will fit in the washing machine cleaned regularly
- all tack cleaned and conditioned once a week
- physios/dentists/vets/saddlers/farriers all organized and attended (fees for practioners added to livery bill - no charge for attending)

if I wanted, yard would even tack Kal up for me ready to ride and then untack him/sort him out for me when I have finished - I actually prefer to do this myself.

Facilities are good and my trainer (who runs the yard and schools Kal) has lessons with a good trainer on him and I don't get charged - he also gets boxed up and taken off for lessons/schooling - I pay for hire of any external facilities while lesson fees and transport are picked up by yard owner. Yard provides all basic medical equipment at no cost (hibiscrub, wound powder, purple spray, animalintex, vet wrap, etc.), along with shampoos, sponges, sweat scrapers, etc.

Supplements and medication (along with fees for farrier, vet, physio, saddler and dentist) are all extra, as are rug cleaning/reproofing/mending (these are sent off-site to be done).

Hope that helps.

P
 
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My local full livery is Monday to Friday
£80 per week,
Bring in/ turnout
rug changes
Mucked out
1 bale of shavings
And hay.
They have got a very large school (not sure of the size) floodlight
A jump school, a dressage school, a cross country course, good hacking
Shows held most weekends, and some evenings
 
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