Question about part livery

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I normally keep my mare at home, but last year Welsh Water were carring out work on our land and I had to keep my mare at a local(ish) livery yard for a few months. Before commencement of the work, they agreed to pay the cost of the livery, plus money towards my fuel and time going to see my horse once a day. Fast forward to now, and they have only paid for the first 8 weeks (despite the fact that the work went on much longer than planned - lasted for 8 months!) and they are refusing to pay for my additional expenses for travelling to see my horse each day. They say that this was not necessary as the horse was being mucked out and fed by the YM (despite the fact that they had already agreed to pay for these additional costs!). I would have thought that this was a minimum requirement for me as the horse's owner to check that my horse was OK once a day, but they say that it is unreasonable - what do you guys think - how often do you check your horse at livery??:eek:

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Every day if I was in the country when mine was at livery.

Surely the agreement was all in writing? If it wasn't, you most probably don't have any comeback.
 
Not sure you say the horse needing checking once a day as part livery would cover that; but could you argue that as it is part not full livery you have to carry out grooming and exercise so need to go if not every day at least every other day.

I'm on 5 day part livery (mon to fri) and I go up 2 or 3 times during the week however if I am away on business obviously I don't.
 
Tell them you will take them to the small claims court it should be easy to construct an argument that part livery does not include all care full livery would.
 
When mine was on part livery I went pretty much daily. I might have missed the odd day but generally liked to know she had been checked and that the yard had done what they were supposed to. I wouldn't not go up if it was a new yard to me.

I would make the point that it isn't about what is necessary it is about adequate compensation for your loss of use of your land and you were used to being able to see your horse daily. Then make the point that regular care was provided above and beyond what YO provided by listing the tasks that weren't included and giving them the price for full/holiday livery to illustrate your point.
 
If the YM was mucking out each day then horse was tended to. I doubt it matters to water company whether it was yourself or someone else- horse was seen to. Sorry- doubt you have any come back.
 
el_Snowflakes said:
If the YM was mucking out each day then horse was tended to. I doubt it matters to water company whether it was yourself or someone else- horse was seen to. Sorry- doubt you have any come back.
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But did the YM pick his feet out, groom, apply treatments, exercise him etc.

And in fact if the water company are providing "compensation" then that involves putting you in a position where you would have been had the event not occured. If the OP were able to see her horse daily before then it is not unreasonable for her to expect to do so at no extra cost now. Having said that there might be an arguement that there should be a deduction for betterment if the OP is getting livery services that she wouldn't have had previously, BUT the water company have previously agreed to pay for certain items and therefore what is reasonable or not is irrelevant and the issue becomes one of contract.

They agreed to pay X they cannot now change this unilaterally after the offer has been accepted.
 
Some of our owners come up every day, others less frequently. Part livery is there to give you peace of mind so that you don't 'have' to go up if you don't want to/ can't. However, that is entirely irrelevant if you've a signed contract whereby they have agreed to pay x for y. Read the contract carefully, make sure you've done everything you need to do (including providing any evidence of costs incurred you need) and, if you have, then present them with a copy of the contract, referencing the relevant provisions, with a further copy of whatever it was you had to give them, and seeking payment. Always good to have a final read of the contract before you go nuclear, just in case you've missed something!
 
I agree with Paddy - what is reasonable/ sensible/ common is completely irrelevant - if they have signed a contract to state that they will pay for the livery for the whole period your field was out of action and X miles a day at Xp per mile for you to visit your horse - that is what they have to pay!!
What excuse are they using for not paying?

If I refused to put my boys on livery unless I could visit 17 times a day (a guess at how often I look at them out the window) - and the water company agraed to pay for 17 daily visits - that is what they would owe me - even if everone else in the world thought that was totally excessive!!
 
They agreed to it. If they didn't want to pay your travelling costs they should have paid out for full livery

If they insist that your YO covered all of the day to day stuff stick the yards list of what is included in part and full livery under their noses

Like Paddy says, do check that contract, if you are taking the Mick, can't provide dates/times/receipts if needed then you are probably on dodgy ground. Don't forget they need to be able to provide back up for the spend at their end

I'm surprised they are being difficult, your costs should have been included in the job costings then re-taken in to account when the job ran over
 
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