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I was hoping someone may be able to give me their take on accepting liveries with vices. Do you except them, do you make special allowances for them? Provide stable with equipment to prevent / reduce this?
I have been aproached by a potential livery who has already stated that the horse windsucks, would you see this as a potential problem, the yard is a very small Farm based yard with a total of 7 liveries at present and a number of my own mostly youngsters. My initial feeling was concern about the youngsters copying, however after googling it seems the general belief is that it isnt a copied vice however research apears to show that it is a possibility. I personally own a weaver but it seems we have sorted this by allowing him to live out, he never does it while he is out, problem solved, so its not that im being predjudice towards said animal, just dont want to upset the other liveries by creating an unneccesery problem.
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I think maybe it would be opening a can of worms if you were to decline liveries for this reason, and loose money,no horse is perfect and maybe somebody will bring a horse to yard who is naive and didnt genuinly know that it has a vice, I wouldnt then be asking them to move the horse for this reason,

at our yard we have box walkers, weavers, windsuckers, door kickers, biters, door chewers, and seriouly stroppy mares, if our yard didnt allow horses with vices then they would have nobody there lol.

I do think thought that it is up to the owner to try and provide the horse with boredom breakers, hose licks windsucking collers, anti crib sprays etc etc, but up to yard owners to provide things like anti weave grills, and as much turnout as possible to help reduce stress in the horses.

hope this helps xx
 
We accept horse with vices and just ask the owners to manage it the best they can. I know of a livery yard that won't accept coloured horses!!
 
I don't really see what the problem is. Our cribber did damage the hinges on his door such was the force he grabs the door (poor thing) owner quickly fixed it. Could just have easily happened because of a kick or barge, horses will damage stuff whether they have vices or not.
 
I think Id probably take a horse on at my yard if he had vices, I mean if he was herendous and uncontrolable and destroyed everything in sight obviously not. Is all Id say is if he breaks/damages anything you replace it.
 
Thanks Nikkinoo, and you are right about opening a can of worms, i dont want to turn any liveries away (within reason, lol) i was actually thinking more along the lines of maybe using some of the stables which are more contained so that this particular horse could have company with one other horse but out of sight of the others. However i appreciate if its a stress related issue this could antagonise it more, and wondered what the ideal situation would be apart from as much turnout and distraction as possible. I appreciate most yards have horses with vices, which is why its nice to hear your side, its a very new venture for us.
 
ahh good luck and be open minded take each episode as it arrises,

I do think door kicking is a copycat behaviour and dam well annoying, thats why whoever is first on the yard will feed all horses, and someone keeps whelting my horse as she has gone really headshy, ignoring is the best policy on that habbit.

I would prob say if you have stables away from others keep them as a confinement area (cant think of the actual word im looking for) for if you have any horses with an illness/disease that need to be seperated from others such as strangles etc.

If it is a DIY yard I would say bring your own tools, cos they will be respected more if they are the owners responsibility. maybe just have a few spare brushes (no excuses for not cleaning up after themselves then) and a few wheelbarrows/shovels.
 
Charlie76, thats horrendous, and quite frankly racist, isnt it?
siennamum, I dont have a problem with horses with vices, i have one myself and the prospect of having a livery with vices doesnt especially worry me either, i dont have any experience of a windsucker therefore dont know what effect it would have on the rest of the yard, if any....., which is why i asked those with more experience what their views are on this matter, im prepared to make alterations and move some horses to accomodate any horse with particular needs. I also prepared to repair any breakages as long as its not a reoccuring dangerous horse type problem, my oldies sometimes break the fences rubbing they're bums, its part of the teritorry and i appreciate this.
 
I am in the same boat. I would take them on the condition that it gets managed – i.e. bars, and all damage is paid for in the case of cribbing. I hate door kickers though! They are taken on the condition of carpet on doors, but if it was up to me it would be on the condition of ice water being thrown at them! I did it with my youngster and it stopped him!!
 
pmsl, ill bear that in mind
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I would discourage anyone with a gypsy type cob from coming to our yard
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It would make me nervous that thieves would target the horse and so ours as well.
Terrible I know and although it wouldn't stop me completely, I would worry about it.

I also worry about Ifor Williams type trailers, thankfully we only have the lorry.
 
What an interesting and informative thread, I never realised that gypsy cobs and IW trailers would attract theives to a yard!

My horse is a wind sucker. I don't believe that other horses (whether young or old) copy this behaviour, but I do know they can cause damage and so as a livery it is only respectful and polite to do what you can to minimise this.
 
My horse is an intermittent door kicker (does it when there's a lot of movement on the yard and for attention) and no amount of water throwing would stop him. In fact if I caught someone doing that I'd throw a bucket of ice water over them! I just tell people to chuck an armful of hay in (even if he has some) and if that doesn't work to shut the top door grill.
 
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