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DanielleAngel

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Well, I recently bought Mr.Dandy pony about a week ago, since then he's been absoultely foot perfect. He's given me so much confidence, at his first show he walked around quietly bareback in just a headcollar, out hacking he passed 3 combine harvesters and didn't take any notice of them. My 10month old cousin sat on him (with his mum holding him) and he just stood there a didn't bat an eyelid at anything. He's getting so much better to catch and now starts to come up to me in the field, he still jumps a bit at quick movements and tends to hide in the corner of the stable when you go to put a bridle/headcollar on him (not too sure whats happened there).

I want to sell him as a kids pony (FR/LR) and a pot. 2nd pony for the small kids who want a bit more go.
In his previous home, he'd been backed, jumped, hacked out, done practically everything.
Since he's been with me, he's done nothing, it's been more of a holiday for him, I took him to a "chill out" day at a local show and took him in the in-hand youngstock for the experiance and he was perfect, he looks to be in the making of a complete perfect kids pony.

Only problem is, he's 2years old.

Now, i'm around 50kg (so not too fat), but even i'm scared to ride him past walk (i'll either fall off with no saddle or i'm paranoid about actually snapping him).
As soon as I got him home I called the vet out the next day to check him over, got the physio out. Both of which said he's absolutely fine and has no pain anywhere. But how is this when he's been ridden since he was basically 1 year old? :confused:
I want to just stick him the field for a year and leave him till he's 3 but I don't have the space or money to just keep another one that I wont ride.

My question is, will anyone buy a completely bombproof 2 year old for their kids to plod around on? I've got a ton of abuse from other forums on the "riding a 2 year old" subject, even though it's not me who's done all the riding work with him.
I would've thought he'd be fine to be lead about with little kids once or twice a week then once he's older can start doing all the under saddle showing stuff or whatever people do with ponies.

Cookies to those who don't kill me :|
 
he needs to be in a field to mature, riding him whilst growing could do damage long term. Can i ask why you bought him a week ago but say you havent got time or money for another pony you cant ride?
 
Well, I expected to keep him longer.
If people shouldn't ride horses while they're still growing then I'd say around 99% of the 5 and 6 year olds should still be in a field, since most horses don't stop growing until they're 7.

I don't have the money to keep him in a field AND buy another older pony I can ride through the summer.
 
I'd agree that I'd let him mature before doing anything else with him.
2 is very young, he needs time to grow.
When you say you've "done nothing with him, he's practically on holiday" (or along those lines) he's only been with you a week, allow him time.
He sounds a very sensible young pony to be as well behaved as he is at 2.
 
I think he sounds too terrified to put a foot out of place. hides at the back of his stable!! How can you say he is the perfect kids pony and kids can 'plod' around on him when you have only had him a week. Nobody can know a pony properly after having him a week.
Why did you buy a 2 year old if you wanted an older one and why buy one and sell it after a week? None of it makes sense to me. Put the pony in a field and give him time to mature before more damage is done.
To answer your question, no, nobody in their right mind will buy a 2 year old for their kid to plod around on.
or is this just a wind up??
 
I don't think you will sell him as a 2 year old, sorry. He is still weak and should be out in the field for at least another year. He may be so quiet as he is so immature and gets tired quickly. I find youngsters often start off very biddable but then go through a more bolshy phase as they get stronger!
 
Sounds like just what I'm looking for, a nice young-one to be my boys companion. Something the kids can walk around, let him grow & learn about human contact while maturing growth wise too.

Just sad your're so far :( I have a heavenly place awaiting the right pony.
 
He does need time to grow. I agree.
It's just sad he's been ridden as much as he has in his little life.

I think I will sell him, but for the price I paid for him and maybe just as a potential FR in the future?
He's good in hand too, the judge liked him and I think maybe in the right hands he could go on to do some in-hand showing. A few people have said he's got good bone but just a baby face.

sall - It is a shame i'm miles away from you :( I've driven to Blair Atholl which isn't that far from you (according to google maps lol) but it took us around 9hours in the horsebox.
 
My goodness - what a strange post... I cant really get my head around it...

I think that the best thing would be for you to leave the 2 yr old on 'holiday' in a field for a while yet. You dont want to risk long term damage.
 
studentvet said:
My goodness - what a strange post... I cant really get my head around it...

I think that the best thing would be for you to leave the 2 yr old on 'holiday' in a field for a while yet. You dont want to risk long term damage.
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Well, I think someone might buy him just to do in-hand showing, since that can't really do any damage, until they think he's old enough to ride.
The people I bought him off ride all their 2 year olds (I did find it a bit odd) like they've ridden him. The training barn I used to work at a few years ago (not in the UK) used to lightly back their 2 year olds, hack about once a week, then leave thwem for the winter and bring them back as 3 year olds in the spring. I always thought this was quite a good training method as it was quite, light? It wasn't too much work and it wasn't too much to take in for their age as we would focus more on groundwork than anything else.
 
I was just saying that I find it strange you purchaced a 2 yr old who was 'backed' and then want to sell him after a week because he is a 'backed' 2 yr old...

Just my observation!!!
 
As people have already says, it sounds odd. You have only had him a week, that you say is a holiday, but he has been hacking, had children on him, you riding him and has been to a show! I dont really class that as a holiday for a 2 year old! Why did you buy him a week ago if you couldnt afford to keep him and had no room for him?
 
Sorry but am genuinely rather bemused that you bought the pony a week ago - presumably knowing his age and your potential concerns about riding him - yet you admit you don't have the time/space/patience to turn him away for a year. If you bought him with a view to sell on, then get on with it!!! If you bought him, and your vet and physio have both checked him over saying he's in good shape - then you wont have trouble finding a new home as long as you are realistic about the price you ask. What did you pay for him yourself? Was it much?
 
I agree with Spyda. Personally I wouldn't ever buy from someone who had backed a 2yr old... poor thing is probably ruined already. I honestly dont see why you bought this pony...! No, IMO nobody will buy a "backed" 2yr old.
 
Spyda said:
Sorry but am genuinely rather bemused that you bought the pony a week ago - presumably knowing his age and your potential concerns about riding him - yet you admit you don't have the time/space/patience to turn him away for a year. If you bought him with a view to sell on, then get on with it!!! If you bought him, and your vet and physio have both checked him over saying he's in good shape - then you wont have trouble finding a new home as long as you are realistic about the price you ask. What did you pay for him yourself? Was it much?
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No, no, I don't have the time and space purely because I have another horse coming back from training and he's going to be turned away, I had planned that since last year. He's not good being turned out with small ponies or geldings, or else i'd turn them both out together.
It was more of an impulsive buy, I went to go and look at a horse they had and saw him, they told me he was for sale too and then I picked him up the next day. He wasn't in bad shape but I thought he could look a lot better than he did, then I was going to sell him.
I was just asking weather anyone would actually buy a 2 year old, knowing it was backed.
I know a lot of people are a bit sceptical when it comes to 2 year olds being broken, I did expec him to have atleast a few complications but being completely healthy and pain free was just a suprise.
I'm going to advertise him tonight and see what responses I get.

MagicMelon said:
I agree with Spyda. Personally I wouldn't ever buy from someone who had backed a 2yr old... poor thing is probably ruined already. I honestly dont see why you bought this pony...! No, IMO nobody will buy a "backed" 2yr old.
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Fair enough...
 
benson21 said:
As people have already says, it sounds odd. You have only had him a week, that you say is a holiday, but he has been hacking, had children on him, you riding him and has been to a show! I dont really class that as a holiday for a 2 year old! Why did you buy him a week ago if you couldnt afford to keep him and had no room for him?
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...I do have the money to keep him, I'd just rather spend it on a horse I can work on and compete.
I'm not going to embarass myself by taking a 2 year old to a show to compete being ridden.
FYI. He's had 1 child on him. Held on him. While I was holding him. It's barely a back breaking experiance to have a 10month old child on his back when he's taken god knows how many people in his last home.
He's been to one show, two days after I got him. If anything, he was sleeping while at the ringside.
Last time I checked, hahcking for 5mins up the road and back was barely work.
 
You can't ride a 2yr old at a show. There are always rules saying they must be a minimum of 4yrs.

You may not have issues with riding a 2yr old. But natives do tend to mature quickly, so by 4 most are fully grown (if they've had a good start). But he is a small pony, and you are an adult, so that is quite a lot for an immature pony.

It's not a dig, but I do feel sorry for the poor little mite being moved on after a week becuase of an impulse buy which you hadn't thoroughly thought about and researched...
 
DanielleAngel said:
...I do have the money to keep him, I'd just rather spend it on a horse I can work on and compete.
I'm not going to embarass myself by taking a 2 year old to a show to compete being ridden.
FYI. He's had 1 child on him. Held on him. While I was holding him. It's barely a back breaking experiance to have a 10month old child on his back when he's taken god knows how many people in his last home.
He's been to one show, two days after I got him. If anything, he was sleeping while at the ringside.
Last time I checked, hahcking for 5mins up the road and back was barely work.
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So why did you buy him in the first place?? very, very odd post
 
Just because there's no damage showing now doesn't mean there won't be in the future. There's someone on here who bought a 4 year old that had been backed and come over from Ireland, she carried on her education but less than a year later the horse will never be sound again and is only fit for a companion/broodmare. All due to being worked too hard at a young age ie 3 year old!!

So no, no one I know would even consider a backed two year old.
 
MegaBeast said:
Just because there's no damage showing now doesn't mean there won't be in the future. There's someone on here who bought a 4 year old that had been backed and come over from Ireland, she carried on her education but less than a year later the horse will never be sound again and is only fit for a companion/broodmare. All due to being worked too hard at a young age ie 3 year old!!

So no, no one I know would even consider a backed two year old.
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Hmm, okay.
But, i've done no work with him. Any damage he supposedly has is what the previous owners did, not me.
If I could look into his future I would, but i've done what I can for him at the moment.
I'm guessing this is why he needs to be left in a field?
I'm just advertising him as a "needs to be turned away then brought back" project type, thing.

Though, thanks everyone for answering my question ^^ you've all been a great help. :D
 
I've never yet met a 2 yo backed so early that would put a foot wrong.
Revisit them in 4/5 years time, however, and they are not glowing, happy, working horses. Often they are broken. Often they have become stubborn, spooky, difficult, etc ...
Unfortunately I see a lot of horses that are ride/drive from yearling as I help out with rescue horses. Turned away for a few years they come back wonderful, but if not ....
 
Have the perfect example of this on my yard, a now 6 year old mare who was broken and ridden hard at 16 months, now looks to be permenantly in pain, spooky, naughty and in my opinion darnright dangerous but the owner insists she is just misunderstood, i'm sure in my own mind her back is probably knackered as she trots with her head up and back and her teeth too have never been checked, the horse is a liability to say the least through no fault of her own.
 
DanielleAngel said:
Hmm, okay.
But, i've done no work with him. Any damage he supposedly has is what the previous owners did, not me.
If I could look into his future I would, but i've done what I can for him at the moment.
I'm guessing this is why he needs to be left in a field?
I'm just advertising him as a "needs to be turned away then brought back" project type, thing.

Though, thanks everyone for answering my question ^^ you've all been a great help. :D
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Danndy, Ride and Drive with Cart and Harness

I have a lovely little star called Danndy, he rides and drives and has been handled by children. He stands at 12hh and is 3 years old.

He is a lovely quiet pony and is good in traffic and to box. Would do well in the right hands.

I am selling this pony with the complete turn out e.g harness and cart.

Price: £750
 
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Eriskayowner - cdb obviously thought that we were all in desperate need of a 12hh 3year old.

subtle as a brick with the advertising.....not!
 
chestnuttymare said:
I think he sounds too terrified to put a foot out of place. hides at the back of his stable!! How can you say he is the perfect kids pony and kids can 'plod' around on him when you have only had him a week. Nobody can know a pony properly after having him a week.
Why did you buy a 2 year old if you wanted an older one and why buy one and sell it after a week? None of it makes sense to me. Put the pony in a field and give him time to mature before more damage is done.
To answer your question, no, nobody in their right mind will buy a 2 year old for their kid to plod around on.
or is this just a wind up??
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agree with this
 
sorry but you have misunderstood

Im not advertising him

I was trying to let you know the person in question tells fibs

I know her from another site and she is selling him on one web site as 2yrs 2months and on dragons driving as a 3yr old ride/drive
 
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imo i think it is cruel to be riding a 2 yo.
stick him in a field for at least another year and in the mean time buy yourself a book about horse-care.
 
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