Was interesting Pammy Hutton said at Badminton taht TB's just take a lot longer to establish and become strong enough but once established and working well at advanced/advanced medium level they can move just as well as warmbloods, its just not as natural for them hence takes longer to get there. Hence the warmblood is an easier/more likely to get high marks option at a lower level where they are less established!
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Was interesting Pammy Hutton said at Badminton taht TB's just take a lot longer to establish and become strong enough but once established and working well at advanced/advanced medium level they can move just as well as warmbloods, its just not as natural for them hence takes longer to get there. Hence the warmblood is an easier/more likely to get high marks option at a lower level where they are less established!
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(I'm just ducking, sw, in anticipation of the brickbats that are going to come flying across from the WB enthusiasts
) Seriously, I think that you make a really interesting point : because so much in the horse world is driven increasingly by economic considerations, breeds that mature earlier and take a shorter time to bring on to a particular level are going to be more profitable for the breeder/owner than TBs or TBXs which take longer to mature. But then the risk is that they break earlier as well! I do find it amazing that you see youngsters from some of the big continental studs, corn-fed from foals, looking incredibly mature at 2 years old, already being asked to loose jump demanding heights. Put my rangy 2 year old (out of an ISH mare, by Caretino Glory) up against them, and he would not win plaudits!! But I'm pretty certain that he is going to make an impressive eventer - he has the paces, the attitude and the athleticism for it - and it would be completely inappropriate to push him too fast. But of course he's not making money whilst he's growing up out in the field!!
Totally agree with you sw123 I noticed that as well, every horse at Badminton was predominantly TB, even Happy Times who came 3rd who is German bred has TB sire. I think WB are fabulous for the lower levels (ie 2*) as quicker and easier to produce but a good dollop of TB is always going to be pretty essential to gallop and stay sharp for 12 minutes at 4* level.
Kilpatirick River is a real athlete, I would love to his sire, he is very flashy on the flat!
Taldi and his stablemate, Kiltealy Spring, (sire and damsire of Twinkle Bee) have both gone to the great covering paddock in the sky.
Speaking of sky, yet another former stablemate, Sky Boy (TB) sired Mary King's former ride, Sky Sport.
Another TB to add is Ballinvella, sire of Osh Kosh, Lorgaine and Jacana. Ballinvella went back to Nasrullah that also appears in Cruising's pedigree through Nordlys (Mullacrew's sire).
The Tamerlane line features in eventers too. Both Headley Britannia and Hannigan go back to him through a very good sire, Final Problem.
Petardia is from the Grey Sovereign line and another significant influence is Imperius (TB) through Master Imp, Puissance and King's Master.
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Some Tbs who have produced eventers but the list is endless.
I'm a star
Bassompiere
Stan the Man
Over the River
Smooth Stepper
Edmund Burke
Shaab
Political Merger
Heraldik
Petardia sire of Kilpatrick River
Strong Gale
Master Imp
Nickel King
Penistone
Carnival Night
Gipfel