Rally

[Clodagh]

A woman I pick up with, who competes in trials as well, swears by Rally for her young dogs. I wonder about taking Scout. A local place has just put a shout out for February classes, I have messaged her but he is only 5 months. Is that too young? He is a good and easy boy. ( in fact if all dogs are this easy I’ll stick with them!).

 

[Karran]

I don't know for sure but I think with Rally they can be quite young as its mostly obedience style work? A couple of people do that as well and i'm sure they have youngish pups out training.

 

[Clodagh]

I don't know for sure but I think with Rally they can be quite young as its mostly obedience style work? A couple of people do that as well and i'm sure they have youngish pups out training.

I imagine it will be pretty boring ?. But a way of getting him thinking without working those joints?
Thank you for replying.

 

[MurphysMinder]

I would think he’d be fine , I did it briefly with one of mine and as Karran says it’s just obedience . Have to say I did find it boring but would be good for a youngster I would think .

 

[GSD Woman]

Do you have to follow the signs in the UK? I used it to get Rudy out as I worked overnights and getting to matches and such was very hard. Done well it is nice. the sloppiness of the earlier years tend to not be seen as much.

 

[Clodagh]

Do you have to follow the signs in the UK? I used it to get Rudy out as I worked overnights and getting to matches and such was very hard. Done well it is nice. the sloppiness of the earlier years tend to not be seen as much.

I’ve no idea! I expect me and Scout will be pretty sloppy.
I’ll let you know.

 

[MurphysMinder]

Do you have to follow the signs in the UK? I used it to get Rudy out as I worked overnights and getting to matches and such was very hard. Done well it is nice. the sloppiness of the earlier years tend to not be seen as much.

Yes when I did it you followed the signs, it was about 10 years ago so I think the earlier years. My girl and I definitely contributed to the sloppiness, she could do nice, neat heelwork but didn't show it much in rally.

 

[Indy]

I've done Rally with Bandit, it's quite good fun, it's like pet dog obedience. The heel work can be more loose lead walking - as long as the lead doesn't go tense you don't get marks deducted but you don't need your dog stuck to your side either. I downloaded the booklet and made my own signs and just mess about making course up at home now when the weather is alright

 

[Mynstrel]

Have you looked at hoopers too? Thats low impact but a bit more exciting for the dog than rally if that's a bit boring for you.

 

[Clodagh]

I've done Rally with Bandit, it's quite good fun, it's like pet dog obedience. The heel work can be more loose lead walking - as long as the lead doesn't go tense you don't get marks deducted but you don't need your dog stuck to your side either. I downloaded the booklet and made my own signs and just mess about making course up at home now when the weather is alright

His off lead heel is pretty good, but he’s only 5 months so occasionally his attention gets grabbed by other things! So that he can wear a lead is a plus.
I wonder if he will need to wear a collar and clip lead, rather than a slip lead?

 

[Clodagh]

Have you looked at hoopers too? Thats low impact but a bit more exciting for the dog than rally if that's a bit boring for you.

Thank you. I’ve just had a look but I think it looks like they get revved up, as he will be (?) a gundog in the future anything that involves shrieking and barking is out.

 

[Indy]

His off lead heel is pretty good, but he’s only 5 months so occasionally his attention gets grabbed by other things! So that he can wear a lead is a plus.
I wonder if he will need to wear a collar and clip lead, rather than a slip lead?

I think he'll need a collar and a lead. I do agility with Bandit and I like to do a bit of rally before we start as I find it gets him focussed and I don't need him getting revved up unnecessarily.

This is the link to the Rally booklet, I went to a few classes, then made my own signs and and just make my own sessions up.

https://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/media/3468/rally-s-regulations.pdf

 

[Clodagh]

I think he'll need a collar and a lead. I do agility with Bandit and I like to do a bit of rally before we start as I find it gets him focussed and I don't need him getting revved up unnecessarily.

This is the link to the Rally booklet, I went to a few classes, then made my own signs and and just make my own sessions up.

https://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/media/3468/rally-s-regulations.pdf

Yes she has confirmed will need a collar and lead. I will give it a go. I’m not really in to group stuff but it will be good for him and probably me too!

 

[pistolpete]

Hoopers is surprisingly good fun

 

[Thistle]

I did Rally with Beans as a fairly young pup, it was good for him, socialised him around other dogs whilst learning to ignore them and get on with a job. Our class was outdoor, fun and quiet (the trainer also has gundogs though)

 

[GSD Woman]

In the US the early days sloppiness was atrocious. Dogs wandering around on six foot leads, sniffing the ground through the whole course, you get the idea. I took my nice obedience dog into the rally ring to build back confidence and a friend took her 2 border collies. We were the first 3 places both days. Basically our dogs understood the basic obedience commands and could do them on the first try so we were faster than the others. One man made a comment about these being obedience dogs and it was no wonder we won. No, our dogs were better trained in basic manners behaviors.

 

[Mynstrel]

Thank you. I’ve just had a look but I think it looks like they get revved up, as he will be (?) a gundog in the future anything that involves shrieking and barking is out.

I think it depends how you teach it, and what sort of dog they are, if they're not a barker I don't think that would make them start, and if you teach steadiness rather than speed then it's not firing them up. I've seen plenty that just trot round rather than fly. Rally is good fun cos you're not doing the standard heelwork stuff, but if you want an independent dog (? No idea what you need for a gundog, I'm mainly agility with sidelines) then if they get into it possibly it might make them a bit velcro. Both are good pastimes that work the brain but aren't too hard on the body and help with that working bond

 

[Clodagh]

I think it depends how you teach it, and what sort of dog they are, if they're not a barker I don't think that would make them start, and if you teach steadiness rather than speed then it's not firing them up. I've seen plenty that just trot round rather than fly. Rally is good fun cos you're not doing the standard heelwork stuff, but if you want an independent dog (? No idea what you need for a gundog, I'm mainly agility with sidelines) then if they get into it possibly it might make them a bit velcro. Both are good pastimes that work the brain but aren't too hard on the body and help with that working bond

I was more not wanting other dogs barking around him. I think Velcro might be a good starting point anyway, I’ve signed up for 4 Rally and will see how we do.
Thank you

 

[Mynstrel]

Good luck, enjoy it ?

 

[Cahill]

there is a rallyO online group where they hold comps and you submit your vids.
if you look on their site you will find past entries of all levels, i like rallyo as i find it less drawm out that normal ob.
http://www.rallyonline.org/