Randy gelding... what options do I have??

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Hi all, I bought a Sect. D gelding for my daughter... I was aware that he had been cut at 4, but not that he had been used as a stud. He is now 8.
Anyway, we had a lovely herd, young and old, geldings and 3 mares... but my gelding insists on serving the mares... he mounts, but quickly loses interest... obv. because he doesnt have the testosterone to finish the job.
My trusty old vet has said that he will run bloods, if I wish, but from what he has seen (luckily he witnessed my randy one...) he feels that the horse is only doing what he has always done.
I have currently got him on maximum dose rig calm, its worked to the point that I am no longer riding a 5 legged horse, and he is calmer to handle, but I'd rather he doesnt do it at all!!
I am unable to seperate the boys from the girls, so is my only option is to sell/ loan him to a gelding only home, or is there any treatment that will stop him in his tracks?
Thankyou in advance for any advice x
 
i havent had this situation but from what i have read if you feed the herb agnus castus to your gelding it should calm him down as it balances their hormones. I feed it to my mares as they are both very hormonal girls but it works on either sex. Agnus castus is pribably one of the main ingredients in your rig calm supplement, its sometimes called monks pepper and i think there is another name for it too but if you buy it straight it is much cheaper than in a manufactured supplement.
 
I've just spent the last 10 days negotiating this situation - sec D gelding, cut at 6...now 8...never covered as far as I know, but put him in with my 3yo gelding and his herd mate 20yo mare...unluckily she happened to be in season and bingo - my big boy thought he was still a stallion...3yo v confused and upset about being run off, 20yo mare winking and squirting merrily, cue big boy running 3yo off into a fence..cut nose, hysterical youngster...so, leccy tape, rig calm, and played musical horses...all had reached a relatively calm impasse with big boy on his own, and 3yo and 20yo together...reached field this am to find them all in together!!!!! Decided to go with it and see how they were getting on...3yo still being run off but much more half-heartedly..20yo mare still winking and squirting...put mare in paddock...she rubbed her face against the gate handle to let 3yo in...then figured she could go UNDER the leccy tape and gallop back to big boy..gave up at this point and let 3yo back in with them..bit fraught initially but by bedtime, mare and youngster appear to be grazing side by side quite happily and big boy **seems** to have given up..will still be doing a v early morning check and monitoring tomorrow though, with option to pull mare/3 yo out if need be..
So, OP, you don't say how long this has been going on for...but in our case, it does now seem to be settling down and it really didn't look like it was going to...fingers crossed you can find something workable, I've become very bored of the sexual politics minefield myself, so sympathies if nothing else!
 
I was forced to inject my horse with depo provera which is a female hormone many years ago after the yard owner told me he couldn't go out with the other horses as they were getting injured and because Billy was very stalliony as he'd been gelded late they presumed it was him. No one had ever seen him attack others, and I for one was convinced it wasn't him and spent hours down the field trying to get video evidence to this effect. Horses were coming in with rugs ripped on the withers and one horse had broken ribs that the chiro told her were caused by a gelding mounting her horse. Billy was blood tested but came back negative for a rig so I presumed he was a false rig and asked the vet and he recommended these injections. I had to sign a disclaimer as they were unlicensed for use in horses but were ok for humans but at the time I considered I had no choice as I didn't want to leave the yard (stupid now I know) and I wanted him to go out with the others - it wasn't fair to keep him on his own in isolation nor was it fair to keep him in a stable day and night.

He had three injections during the period I owned him (the last injection at another yard). One day I was at a show and the owner of the horse who had been injured saw me and my horse there. When we got back from the show she came over to me to apologise and said she was sorry but it wasn't my horse as whilst we'd been at the show her horse had been badly mauled by another horse in the herd.

I felt so sad that my horse had been made scapegoat all this time, so I left the yard. Some 8 or 9 months later my horse dropped down dead of a heart attack in the field and I have wondered to this day if it was because of the injections he'd been given.

I did it as I had his best interests at heart at the time, but I would never do it again. Previous to losing Billy I'd had a youngster that had broken his leg in the field bucking and slipping in the mud (someone saw it happen) and the vet reckoned he'd had a hair line fracture which had most probably been caused by another horse - could this have been the rogue horse all along that kicked him? I shall never know the answer, but would never ever risk giving my horse this injection.

I just thought I would tell you my sad tale in case your vet or anyone else who is having this problem vet recommends this treatment.
 
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From reading your replies, and surfing the net, these randy geldings arent as rare as I once thought...
Yesterday, when I 'caught' him mounting my beautiful new mare I had scrimped and sold my soul for, I'd have given him to the first person to show willing....
Today, I'm back to loving him,, he's had such a **** life, only used for his baby making then passed from pillar to post, obv. beaten (extremely head shy and dis trustful of new humans) and I only want whats best for him...
So my thoughts are, continue with the agnus castus and mag, try my best to find him a home where he can be kept separate from the mares and to give my girls a row for being so easy!!
Just to add, applecart, I dont think the hormones would have had any affect on his heart, but its a shame that he was blamed without proof.... I have plenty of proof of what my gelding is up too, the children on the yard tell me every day!!
 
showaddy1 said:
From reading your replies, and surfing the net, these randy geldings arent as rare as I once thought...
Yesterday, when I 'caught' him mounting my beautiful new mare I had scrimped and sold my soul for, I'd have given him to the first person to show willing....
Today, I'm back to loving him,, he's had such a **** life, only used for his baby making then passed from pillar to post, obv. beaten (extremely head shy and dis trustful of new humans) and I only want whats best for him...
So my thoughts are, continue with the agnus castus and mag, try my best to find him a home where he can be kept separate from the mares and to give my girls a row for being so easy!!
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This sums up my whole day!! I was contemplating all sorts of dark things for big boy this morning..but by this afternoon he was back in my good books..:rolleyes:
 
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