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My 2 rottweilers regularly have upset tummies and one has been really quite poorly recently. I feed them a complete biscuit with a small amount of Butchers Tripe meat just to encourage them to eat the biscuits.

In view of the tummy problems my pet shop has persuaded me to try raw chicken mince and a quality mixer. I have started this gradually & added a little boiled rice with it, and plan to give them fish instead of the chicken once or twice a week.

My concerns are that they will not be getting enough vitamins etc as obviously when they were on a complete biscuit it provided everything they need, and despite the upset tummies they were looking fantastic.

Do you think I'm doing the right thing by changing to raw meat, and if so should I alternate the meat and give them say lamb or will the changing irritate them even more?

I'm a bit confused about what I should be feeding now as I know they won't eat any veg if I try and introduce that as they are very fussy.

Any pointers greatly appreciated
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First of all welcome to the dark side of raw feeding
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I love Raw feeding my dogs.
They have super sensitive tummies and would vomit and have runny poop on any dog food i tried.


So i go for 80% meat 10% bone and 10% organ. per meal.

Chicken is the easiest thing to start off with but i wouldn't be feeding any dog biscuits or anything at the same time, its bad for their tummy.

You will need to become a champion at looking through the sell of section in the super market.

Ask your butcher if he can do you a deal on off cuts. I use to get bags of chicken necks ect ect for about £5.

If you are feeding the correct amount of bone you won't need to add any veg.

I crack a raw egg over their dinner 3 times a week and they get fish 3 times a week as well.

Fish can be expensive so they get tinned mackerel, tuna and salmon in oil or water and that makes it cheaper.

They will love eating it and the bones will help with their teeth and poop!

Any more question ask away and i will answer them!
 
Oh just another thing.

I would start feeding things other than chicken mince.

Chicken wings, Some offal, chicken necks, we gave trotters a try but only one of them liked it.
 
You would need to feed more than chicken for a varied diet to give them the nutrition they need. A raw diet includes meat, bone and offal. Never feed dry food at the same time as Raw as dogs digest them at different rates and can give them bad tummys!

I find this site very useful. I love a raw diet for my dog!

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Thanks everybody - I can see this isn't going to be as easy as I first thought!

Firstly my butcher says he doesn't get enough offcuts to give me them on a regular basis (?!!) so he wasn't that much use. My pet shop can get frozen chicken, lamb, tripe, fish & chicken necks so I can use a mixture of these and like you say I will keep my eye out in Tesco for anything cheap I can freeze.

My confusion comes when it gets to the mixer - I have read that for the true BARF diet you shouldn't need this but my petshop have said that as I will only be getting the mainly minced type products from them & my dogs won't eat it if I add fresh veg then I should add the mixer as it contains a variety of plants, vitamins, oils etc. I think the logic behind this is because I'm not feeding bones but I'm not really sure.

Because I can't get bones from the butcher I really need to feed something as well as the frozen meats I'm buying so can anyone recommend what I should do please. I'm not going to be able to do the true BARF regime but I do want them happier & healthier - although it has to be within my means!

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Sfoers, where abouts in the country are you?

My malamutes breeder is a self confessed queen of raw feeding having done studies and wrote papers on it for many years lol lol

I`m sure we could find you a supplier of meat and bone local to you
 
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Thanks everybody - I can see this isn't going to be as easy as I first thought!

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Don't be disheartened sfoers. It really does sound more complicated than it is, and once you get into the swing of things it is so easy.

Remember that dogs don't need a balanced diet for EVERY meal - they are designed to have a balanced diet over a period of time, so by feeding only only chicken wings on one particular day is not going to do your dog any harm - they don't need the mixer. Your petshop is talking rubbish. Get hold of Ian Billinghursts book - it is a bible.

Lots of raw feeders on here - so lots of available advise
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Good luck - you won't look back !
 
I've just been to Tesco and picked up some turkey breast from the reduced section and a lot of chicken wings which I can freeze. I have also ordered poultry necks and a mixture of frozen meat blocks from the petshop - I hope that's good for starters!

I have brown rice at home and green veg such as pak choi and green cabbage - should I lightly boil and add a small amount to the meat. I'm really not sure if they will eat it but if it's good for them it's worth a try. Oh dear,my poor dogs will wonder what's going on!

Cyrus I am in Plymouth, Devon - my local butcher hasn't been able to help but as my petshop is about 10 miles away I am sure there will be another one I can try in their area.

Thanks everyone - I hope all this works for my dogs in the end.
 
I don't feed any veg or rice.

My boys don't like it so i don't bother.

You MUST feed bone.
Like chicken wings have a pretty high bone content.

My mum gets tesco chickens whole ones and then chops them up that way you are getting all the meat AND bone from the chicken.
 
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Cyrus I am in Plymouth, Devon - my local butcher hasn't been able to help but as my petshop is about 10 miles away I am sure there will be another one I can try in their area.

Thanks everyone - I hope all this works for my dogs in the end.

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Landywoods covers Plymouth and they have everything
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I know quite a few people who use this company with sucess

You may have to order a months worth at a time don`t know if you have enough freezer space lol lol we had to by an extra chest freezer just for the dogs

http://www.landywoods.co.uk/
 
We actually used landywoods for a while when we were in england and i know a lot of people who still do.

They were great you have to order a fairly big amount but its always fresh and british and a great price.

You can pick up a second freezer really cheap like we did if you need to.
 
Thank you both - the Landywoods site looks really good so it should make life easier - after I have persuaded my husband we need a new freezer!
 
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I have brown rice at home and green veg such as pak choi and green cabbage - should I lightly boil and add a small amount to the meat.

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I wouldn't waste your time with the rice, it's not a food a dog would eat naturally and is a complex carb which you should avoid for dogs as they can't digest it very well. If its a bit of leftovers now and again no harm but there is no need for it in the diet.

With the veg you only need to use small amounts, you can lightly steam it but I bung it in the liquidiser or food processor raw with a couple of raw eggs and some cold pressed veg or fish oil then add it to a mince meal and mix it in, 2-3 tbs per dog 1-2 x per week is plenty.

Dogs would have only eaten limited amounts of veg usually from the insides of their prey! They cannot readily break down plant cellulose, so by bashing it into little bits they can get at the nutrients.

Bones are very important and Billinghurst advocates raw meaty bones as the basis of the diet, bones are an all round food providing essential nutrients in the marrow and roughage/bulk in the calcium. Feeding a variety of food species ensures you get a good balance of those nutrients, what are short in one are plentiful in another.

Bones are brilliant for dogs that need to loose weight as they give bulk but not weight gain, for skinny dogs feed more muscle meat.
 
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