Raynaud's syndrome

I get white fingers occasionally, have for years. It’s not always cold that triggers it.
I find gloves make it worse and can induce it.

I get cold feet too.
Eating ginger in foods heats me up, so maybe drinking ginger tea with lemon and honey could help...take a flask to the yard if there all day?
When I consume ‘heating’ foods like spices I am fine the next day and do all outside winter jobs with bare hands.
 
CazD said:
Is no-on else on medication for Raynauds then? This only my second year of medication but its working wonders and I can actually take my gloves off to tie up haynets for the first time in about 10 years - usually hubby has to do them!
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I have tried the medication available, but In all honesty it gave me such horrific headaches and some days even as far as migraines...I just found it wasn’t worth it, despite the fact when my fingers go white I can’t do anything with them!
 
Peregrine Falcon said:
I can walk out of my house and within seconds my fingers go white. I wear gloves and keep my body warm. It is almost impossible to bridle up or change rugs etc if my fingers have gone. The pain is so bad at times I want to smash them with a hammer.
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Exactly this. I have a horse on box rest who I am hand grazing in the morning and evening. Last week it was really tough taking his bridle off. I often think I could lose a finger and I wouldn't know about it at the time ;)
 
pansymouse said:
I have it as did my late Mother so I grew up learning how to cope. I always layer and never with thick layers. I keep my core warm with a body warmer and am a big fan of vests (or base layers if you're being fancy). I also use silk liner gloves. It's so bad in my hands that there are times when it not safe for me to ride whatever I do. If it's too cold my hands just 'die' and I can't hold or feel the reins. The pain when they are warming up and coming back to life is unbelievable.

Even after living with Raynauds for over 50 years, I still often cry from the pain in my hands in the winter.
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Thankfully I don't seem to get it as bad as you. You have my sympathy. But I do know what you mean by the pain of when they are warming up, it's shocking.
 
This article on possible causation of raynaud’s being an autoimmune gut-dysbiosis issue is intriguing:

https://healthygut.com/articles/raynauds-disease-gut-link/

Even before getting into horses and being exposed to the winters outside I would get white finger while inside and warm. I think stress is a trigger for me than the environmental temperature. I get it in supermarkets funnily enough! All those insanely bright white lights and millions of beeps from the checkouts...I hate those places!

I get it less now, despite being outside in all weathers. I have less stress than the surburbia life I had. I also take omega 3, magnesium, vit c, selenium...which equates to consuming more citrus, oily fish, dark chocolate and 5 Brazil nuts daily if you want to use food as medicine. Also I did a course of 20 billion probiotics a couple of years ago.
So I think that article might be onto something. I started the above regimen due to bowel issues, and as a side effect I had less raynaud’s attacks, despite being out in the mud, wet and cold.

Maybe try omega 3/ oily fish daily, sardines, mackerel... and a course of probiotics initially to see if there’s improvement?
 
PurBee said:
This article on possible causation of raynaud’s being an autoimmune gut-dysbiosis issue is intriguing:

https://healthygut.com/articles/raynauds-disease-gut-link/

Even before getting into horses and being exposed to the winters outside I would get white finger while inside and warm. I think stress is a trigger for me than the environmental temperature. I get it in supermarkets funnily enough! All those insanely bright white lights and millions of beeps from the checkouts...I hate those places!

I get it less now, despite being outside in all weathers. I have less stress than the surburbia life I had. I also take omega 3, magnesium, vit c, selenium...which equates to consuming more citrus, oily fish, dark chocolate and 5 Brazil nuts daily if you want to use food as medicine. Also I did a course of 20 billion probiotics a couple of years ago.
So I think that article might be onto something. I started the above regimen due to bowel issues, and as a side effect I had less raynaud’s attacks, despite being out in the mud, wet and cold.

Maybe try omega 3/ oily fish daily, sardines, mackerel... and a course of probiotics initially to see if there’s improvement?
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That’s interesting you mention about stress. That could certainly be a factor for me at the moment. I have a horse on box rest with a badly damaged tendon that is stressing me out.
I will read your link with interest.
 
You’re welcome bionic boy.
I hope your horse gets better soon, I sympathize as the stress when something is wrong with the horse is automatic in me, I need to have a serious talk to myself and focus on good treatment options and patience!
Neurotransmitters that help deal with stress are produced in the gut via good gut flora...so an imbalance of gut flora in humans could make us more susceptible to stress reactions. This point is touched upon in the article.

The high statistic stated in the article of finding h. Pylori stomach bacterial infections in those with raynaud’s is intriguing and supports the above gut dysbiosis hypothesis.

It reminds me of the Hippocratic adage “All disease begins in the gut” ....how true that statement has proven itself in my experience with so many seemingly unrelated conditions.
 
I use thermal lined aigle wellies which have really helped my feet with wool socks. Equetech have brought out thermal riding mitts too, that thread onto your reins :)
 
lizandreggie said:
I use thermal lined aigle wellies which have really helped my feet with wool socks. Equetech have brought out thermal riding mitts too, that thread onto your reins :)
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I love the Equetech fleece jods but I'm not sure how I would feel about threading my gloves onto my reins, what happens if you fall off?
 
I think this is what I have! I have had 'weird white finger syndrome' for years , doesn't matter how warm my core is, i can have one on each hand.

I feel the cold markedly, especially when I'm tired. I have an argument every year in spring and autumn with the OH when I'm layering up and he's still wearing a t-shirt. "Aren't you too hot in that coat/cardie/jumper?", "No darling, otherwise I wouldn't be fecking wearing it"
 
Ski gloves form mucking out. Agree with sweat bands or anything to keep wrists warm. Thin silk gloves worn under other gloves. Also stupidly when wearing one pair of gloves stuff another pair up your armpits. They warm up and you can change them around after 15 minutes or so
Does get a little aromatic but I would rather be warm
 
When walking the dogs I have to do a strange sort of pumping action with my arms, lifting my hands high above my heart and also pumping my hands open and closed (even with gloves, wrist warmers, etc). I look like I am quite disturbed but it works. And no one comes anywhere near me.
 
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