Re-backing problem horse

Tiger21

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I recently purchased a 4yo Connemara gelding as a winter project. He was advertised as having just done basic ground work but on speaking with the owner, she revealed he had a rider on him briefly in May (saw video of him trotting up and down their yard). Due to staff shortages at her yard and being busy competing she was unable to give him consistent work so to be fair he was turned away.

He was quite underweight and weak looking when he arrived but given he had a 10hr journey we knew it would have taken it out of him. A week later he look like a different pony! On the ground he was so sweet, so quiet and easy to do in all ways - a child could have easily lead him around. We decided to treat him as unbacked due to not knowing his full history. he accepted tack, lunging, long reining and popping a loose jump with no issues.

However, when we moved on to the suggestion of a rider he lost it! He is absolutely petrified so now I am wondering if something has happened to him. Taking things really slowly We are now at the point where we can lean over him with no reaction but have really hit a stalling point here. Any attempt at swinging a leg over and he just panics and shoots off. We are starting from a mouting block but even the feeling of a foot it in the stirrup upsets him although he is happy with us flapping the stirrups around on his side. Any suggestions how to proceed with him or do we just wait it out? Not looking for a quick fix more just if anyone had any methods that may be worth trying.
 

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I was involved with a reback once who was fine to lean over, and sit up on (very slowly), but would flip his lid at just the suggestion of walking on with a rider.

We used a lot of repetition and a lot of treats (and I got thrown fairly dramatically a couple of times), but we got there by just expanding his comfort zone at a glacial pace. It was a good month before he would walk a handful of steps with a rider and someone leading.

You might have to get a bit creative with ways you can break down the process of sitting astride him into teeny tiny bites. Maybe just start by getting him gradually used to increasing pressure in the stirrup by leaning into it with your hand.
 

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Get a serious expert out. You have one shot at getting this right without one or both of you having serious trauma mentally or physically. I watched a well known person in my area rebacking a horse and it was a car crash.
 

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Get a serious expert out. You have one shot at getting this right without one or both of you having serious trauma mentally or physically. I watched a well known person in my area rebacking a horse and it was a car crash.

yes this has been a discussion as we are not pushing outside our abilities. Girl backing him is experienced but just not come across one quite like him. We are unlucky in that we are quite a remote location and not really anyone with the expertise to come to us so would probably be a case of sending him away
 

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Could you hire or make a dummy?

Have just read this - we actually tried that today...old pair of trousers with legs filled with sand for some weight. Had a bit of a spook the first time we put it on but fine after that. People seems to be the issue rather than the weight/something on his back!
 
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