Really good physio for horse.

[poiuytrewq]

I got my new equine dentist recommendation from here a couple of years back and am very happy with him so thought id try the same approach.

I'm Gloucestershire. Local to Cirencester/Burford but Oxfordshire borders. Would especially be interested if anyone knows someone with an interest in head shakers, although its a general all over that I want. I do have someone I've used but she always has really long wait and I'm wanting to really crack on and make decisions here!
Any suggestions please?

 

[I'm Dun]

In your last ditch attempt shoes I'd bite the bullet and get Tom Beech or Rob Jackson. I'd had both save horses in the last chance saloon where normal vets hadn't found it or weren't positive about treatment.

 

[PinkvSantaboots]

I sent you the link to Yasmin Stewart on your head shaking thread she is a physio and does nerve release and travels all over the country.

 

[poiuytrewq]

In your last ditch attempt shoes I'd bite the bullet and get Tom Beech or Rob Jackson. I'd had both save horses in the last chance saloon where normal vets hadn't found it or weren't positive about treatment.

I did email Tom Beech but never heard back actually,forgot that. not heard other other. Thanks

I sent you the link to Yasmin Stewart on your head shaking thread she is a physio and does nerve release and travels all over the country.

Ah yes you did. Is she local? I’m actually wanting to rule out once and for all back issues. Some weird moves he has added to the repertoire more recently had made me
I’ll look her up

 

[PinkvSantaboots]

I did email Tom Beech but never heard back actually,forgot that. not heard other other. Thanks


Ah yes you did. Is she local? I’m actually wanting to rule out once and for all back issues. Some weird moves he has added to the repertoire more recently had made me
I’ll look her up

I think she is based in Buckinghamshire but I know she goes everywhere now she does the nerve release.

 

[TPO]

I would be VERY cautious of anyone claiming they can perform nerve releases. Personally wouldn't touch them with a bargepole.

I know Yasmin is in the Travelling Horse Witch cult. Plenty of info online exposing what a lying, harm causing whackadoodle she (Celeste) is. I'd take thr words of thr majority over thr few ingrained in her clique. There's been a few fairly lengthy threads on here about her nonsense and there's an epic thread on Chronicle of the Horse.

Of course apply critical thinking and do your own research.

PLEASE speak to a vet and ask them about the practice before letting anyone perform a "nerve release".

Is it a physio or would you consider a chiro? I can recommend Rob Jackson and Tom Beech is highly spoken off on here.

Edited to clarify

 

[ihatework]

I use a combination of Leigh Miller and Marnie Campbell, both cover your area.

 

[Fieldlife]

I would be VERY cautious of anyone claiming they can perform nerve releases. Personally wouldn't touch them with a bargepole.

I know Yasmin is in the Travelling Horse Witch cult. Plenty of info online exposing what a lying, harm causing whackadoodle she (Celeste) is. I'd take thr words of thr majority over thr few ingrained in her clique. There's been a few fairly lengthy threads on here about her nonsense and there's an epic thread on Chronicle of the Horse.

Of course apply critical thinking and do your own research.

PLEASE speak to a vet and ask them about the practice before letting anyone perform a "nerve release".

Is it a physio or would you consider a chiro? I can recommend Rob Jackson and Tom Beech is highly spoken off on here.

Edited to clarify

Yasmin is a cautious professional physio. Possibly very cautious. I don’t think there would be any risk in trying her if she’s in your area.

Similarly Tom Beech is worth trying though he’s a lot more gung-ho

 

[PinkvSantaboots]

Yasmin is a cautious professional physio. Possibly very cautious. I don’t think there would be any risk in trying her if she’s in your area.

Similarly Tom Beech is worth trying though he’s a lot more gung-ho

Agree she is a very good physio and the nerve release was not anything to be worried or scared about in my opinion, and I have to say Arabi has been better since the treatment it's also something that you don't continually need to do.

I had used yasmin previously for physio for both of my horses years ago before she did the nerve release, so I knew her and rated her work had I not I probably would have been more cautious I think.

 

[poiuytrewq]

I use a combination of Leigh Miller and Marnie Campbell, both cover your area.

Why a combo out of interest?
Do you think either better at something in particular?

I like this suggestion actually, years ago I used to have lessons with Leigh (I think the same! Canadian?)

 

[poiuytrewq]

To be honest I’m not aiming this as some one stopping him head shake. I’d just be interested if the additional weird bits he started doing could be back related.
I imagine not, I imagine it’s all related. I just want someone else, new eyes and hands to give an opinion.

 

[poiuytrewq]

I've already had a really nice email back from Rob. He charges £150 which is fine. He has requested more information about Ziggy, so I'll send what I can think of. The only downside is I am a fair way away from him and although he covers my area he only really comes for several horses or a £100 call out.

I want it done NOW! I need to get what's going to happen straight and have a plan, I also don't really want to spend £250 on a physio session.... then i thought, I wonder if its worth getting him to do the TB aswell
I know I have said he's definitely retired, but If he'd come and look at 2 that might work and would only be £50 extra.
If i looked at it as £300 to tell me if either horse is worth saving it might be worth a shot.

 

[poiuytrewq]

I've sent details of both... what a sorry sad read that is I suspect he still needs more to come this far but worth a try.

 

[poiuytrewq]

He has already replied again! I really love that. I'm so impatient!

So reading both horses details he has said although its def worth looking at Ziggy (head shaker) he can't guarantee being able to help with him. I explained that I know that and really I'm looking for a way to tick boxes and be able to know I tried.

The other, he said on paper he might be able to help. I'm really absolutely not going to let any hope at all creep in *I AM NOT* There has been so many ups and downs with him and last time i said was the final try at anything........but.... here we go again! He certainly looks fabulous at the moment.
He is fully booked this month but I've just asked for asap.

 

[I'm Dun]

Hes very pragmatic and sensible. Put an ad on your local horsey groups and you should be able to get enough people to be worth it. He won't treat anything that doesn't need it. And either Tom or Rob, will and have pick up weird things or things normal vets aren't quite sure how to proceed. Both are vets and osteos.

I'll be honest, he saw Leo, absolutely cracked one back leg by having it so far up I thought he was going to tip him over. At the time Leo was super aggressive with men and he wasn't phased. Whatever he did must have been pretty instant as when he went to do the other leg Leo was fine, and stood afterwards and was fine with him.

I did wonder if I'd been ripped off. He literally did about 10mins work if that. But the horse walked away sound and stayed sound for a long time. I've never seen anything like it before. Tom did similar a few years down the line but stayed ages and did lots of little things. I don't know if thats usually what its like with both, or just that Leo wasn't in work and only had the leg/hip problem with Rob and then when Tom came he was in super hard work so probably had a lot of niggles. Who knows. I consider it almost like black magic, but it worked, and I would always try them with any sort of this horse isn't right but isn't wrong enough to know why situations.

 

[poiuytrewq]

Weird isn't it. He said the visits are 1.5-2hrs so hopefully he will go through both pretty well.
The FB advert is a good idea. I will see what dates he comes up with and see if i can round a few up.

Off to pull TB's mane and give him a bath ready for his new life.

 

[MiJodsR2BlinkinTite]

Sorry, butting in. OP you are not in my area (I am in Devon) so cannot help you with your query, but am piping up as I had a headshaker. Tried various things among them acupuncture (I wouldn't do this again, for lots of reasons - one of which it made my poor mare very needle-shy).

Something which my then-vet did say was that sometimes magnesium supplement can help; apparently it is to do with the geographical area. I am in Devon, and by all accounts we are deficient in it here, don't know whether this would apply to where you are though. But I throw it in the pan and hope it might be of help.

Sadly with mine it turned out to be trigeminal nerve headshaking. My vet sent footage up to Bristol Uni/Langford, and the diagnosis was unmistakeable. I decided not to go the treatment root for her. Poor old gal. Sorry, this is probably what you don't want to hear, but I really do feel you need a firm diagnosis as to what you are dealing with. Hoping for the best for you and that there is a fixable solution.

 

[Zoeypxo]

Weird isn't it. He said the visits are 1.5-2hrs so hopefully he will go through both pretty well.
The FB advert is a good idea. I will see what dates he comes up with and see if i can round a few up.

Off to pull TB's mane and give him a bath ready for his new life.

Sorry if ive missed it elsewhere but how did it go with Rob?

 

[poiuytrewq]

Sorry if ive missed it elsewhere but how did it go with Rob?

Hi, Really interesting! Do you want it all?! Firstly a really nice guy, said hello to the horses first, which is something i always like. Friendly calm manner. Mt two were very calm and relaxed around him.
The adjustments are very harsh, and i was a bit but the horses didn't seem to care and there was lots of yawning and chewing.

TB- He said In reality with the horse in front of him he wasn't sure he could do anything much. He agrees the issue is neck. He did loosen him all off though, I can't think now exactly where but he was all front end. He had some nasty looking side yanks done amongst other things!
I was told outright he may or may not be any better but to lunge, if that went ok tack up and get on. He lunged infinitely better than ever the following day. He hates lunging and i think did so much trotting up and lunging for vets over the years he has just said no. This time he trotted willingly and was fine. So tacked up (not the same day) and he was really sore and uncomfortable. Very girthy, lame, wouldn't even walk forwards led. Obviously I didn't get on and he is now very officially done! He's hopefully going to keep a friends retiree company a few miles away, I'll still do him but they can live out together and we will see where we go with him. If he's happy like that fine. If not I think its plan A which is pts.

Ziggy- Had quite a lot of adjustments done. He's weak and reactive round the back of his saddle and down his off side shoulder. Rob said nothing that should be causing head shaking though so we figure that is a separate thing. He left be with a bit of ridden homework, which sounds simple but I've not been particularly successful in as that's a part of the issue, He's so busy with his head its impossible to get him working over his back.
I also have ground stretches and exercises though so hope to get results just maybe slower.
I have to say I have noticed a big difference in him, I really didn't expect to! He still headshakes. However the constant head yanks up and left are a lot better. He will almost sometimes, almost drop his head and it may stay still for a few seconds- This was a total no go before. So I'm half hopeful that with more strengthening work he may improve more.

So all in all, I'm really glad I did it as I think having someone like that say with No-1 If this doesn't work he is retired (after lots of failed vet workups etc) has put my mind at rest that there is no more I can do so I accept he's finished.
Zig, any improvement is good and having a little something to work on gives me focus. I'm not swearing I'll keep him still but am more hopeful he might be improved to a point that even if i don't keep him perhaps a pro could get him to a point he might find a home.

So even though as someone else said when he left i did think I'd just handed over a fair bit of money for not a lot I'd absolutely use him again, having seen definite good results. It's very rare over the years that Ive got on a horse after having its back done and honestly noticed a difference.