Rearing ADVICE

shysmum said:
I've also sent a pm to PCsteele. What a prat I am sometimes.. and there's me going on about other being a bully. *sigh*
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Don't be daft you silly. You weren't bullying him/her. I'm sure OP knows that! The trolls have been everywhere recently. Trust no one!!! :D :D
 
amymay said:
Actually the rider wouldn't necessarily know how to deal with it - if they are a new rider (not all mounted police come from an equine background by any means).

And no, you have not disparaged the horse in any way.
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Do you think that after the training they have received they should be able to deal with it?
 
And would you also hope that there would be enough back up back at base to see the mounted police safely out on the streets protecting our communities without them having to resort to using a public forum where any kind of advice could be given.

As i said before it is not the OPs private horse it is a police horse and IMO the questions relating to this horse should only be directed to those involved in the police horses training programme.

:)
 
Allover said:
And would you also hope that there would be enough back up back at base to see the mounted police safely out on the streets protecting our communities without them having to resort to using a public forum where any kind of advice could be given.:)
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There is, actually.

But no harm in casting the net wider.
 
Have to admit, I'm with Allover... why on earth is a copper using this forum of nutcakes and weirdos for advice on training the property of the Home Office!

It might be "just a horse" - but a police horse who can't even stand still? Hardly going to be able to stand up to jeering students/anarchists throwing flares and fireworks at it, is it!

PC Steele - I think if you have worries about this horse and it's ability to do as it's told, you should bring it up with whoever is in charge. I'd have thought immobility was part of it's basic training and if it still hasn't cracked it then it's probably not going to make the grade.

But, for the record, Dorey used to be the same. I just bring her into halt all the time and praise her when she's still. She will now stand and wait at all junctions and for cars to pass if the road isn't wide enough.
 
amymay said:
There is, actually.

But no harm in casting the net wider.
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Obviously not if he is having to ask questions on here.

And there is my point, you have seen the wide, varying and sometimes mind boggling advice that can be given on this forum to the simplest of issues. Say if someone said "if it starts to play up give it a good spur and gob" and the OP thought this was the way to go (and OP i am not saying you would just that it could happen) and did this and made the situation worse, not only is it not good for the rider, it could also set the horses training back and potentially ruin a good horses career, i will say it again, it is not down to Joe public to advise a policeman on how to deal with a serving police horse.
 
Allover said:
Obviously not if he is having to ask questions on here.

And there is my point, you have seen the wide, varying and sometimes mind boggling advice that can be given on this forum to the simplest of issues. Say if someone said "if it starts to play up give it a good spur and gob" and the OP thought this was the way to go (and OP i am not saying you would just that it could happen) and did this and made the situation worse, not only is it not good for the rider, it could also set the horses training back and potentially ruin a good horses career, i will say it again, it is not down to Joe public to advise a policeman on how to deal with a serving police horse.
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I agree. But the OP seems like an adult, and one with a brain....
 
As well as the loonies that come on here there are very many experienced and sensible horse people who can give brilliant advice. If you bother to look at OP's previous posts you will see that good advice has been offered to other people on several occasions. This is not a novice owner or rider, just someone who asked for a little advice, just because it relates to a police horse makes no difference to most. Until you have experienced and dealt with a problem you may have doubts about how to deal with it in the most effective way, to ask for help is not a bad thing. There are several replies on here from people who have actually cured this problem in their own horse, that is what the OP was after. Why on earth some have to make such an issue about it is beyond me!

Shy's mum, I never thought about you thinking it was a troll that had posted, but that was probably because I have seen OP's posts in the past, apologies for thinking you were just being rude. x
 
Oooh could you take him to Smith Square on the 5th and 6th of May to practice please? I'll be in my London office then and will be desperate to see horse as I have to leave mine on full livery for two days :(
 
hch4971 said:
If you bother to look at OP's previous posts you will see that good advice has been offered to other people on several occasions.

This is not a novice owner or rider, just someone who asked for a little advice, just because it relates to a police horse makes no difference to most.

Why on earth some have to make such an issue about it is beyond me!
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IMO it should make a difference that we are dealing with a police horse and not his personal horse, it is not joe publics place to offer training tips to them.

We shall have to agree to disagree on this :D
 
I do wonder why the thread is entitled 'rearing advice'. I haven't seen that the horse in question rears and wouldn't think that if it did it would be suitable to be police horse.
My IDx wasn't keen on standing still for any length of time on a hack when I first got her, (always absolutely fine at home). My neighbours were the answer to our issue. I stood and talked to them, they gave her a fuss and in some instances a treat/piece of carrot. She decided that I wasn't as mad as I seemed and now takes the opportunity for a breather.
 
OP - I used to ride a horse who was a nightmare at junctions and would plunge to get his own way (he was an ex eventer and was a hunter when I rode him).

I found a good way to deal with it was to start half-halting approx 100yds from the junction and slowing the pace slightly with each half halt so that we sort of 'dribbled' up to the junction and then halted. I also rode him slightly in shoulder-fore for the last 50yds too so he couldnt' build up a head of steam.

This is what worked for him - may work for you, may not! Good luck anyway.
 
TBH, although I fully support the Police, I'm with Allover on this one. The horse in question is police property and the OP should not be asking on public forum how to deal with the item of police property, and the issue of what to do with it.
I think I have read some of PCSteele's previous posts and if I remember correctly they have extensive equine experience, so they are not new to riding horses.
 
My 50p worth lol

I doubt PC Steele is his real name......If I was a Police Officer working for the MET, I wouldn't use my name on a forum asking about something relating to my job - say the wrong thing or something in the wrong way - bye bye job!

I can also understand why people were/are skeptical about the post, MET police horses are trained at Imber Court and not by the riders, they have specific trainers there. If a horse has a vice, it is not down to the rider to 'fix it', it would have to go back to the trainers.

Having just spoken to one of those trainers on the phone, who incidentally had already seen this post and plans to 'investigate' on Monday morning, they would be quite ticked off if a Police rider tried to train/re-train one of the horses, especially if they were on-duty.
 
Have to say I saw this yesterday and was a bit surprised that a pc would ask on a forum for methods of training a police horse.... So I was with SM and thought it was a troll post:rolleyes:
If it is genuine I still think it is unusual, and I do not think she was especially rude. No help at all was I? But I would have thought that the people to ask would be the official trainers.
 
assuan said:
My 50p worth lol

I doubt PC Steele is his real name......If I was a Police Officer working for the MET, I wouldn't use my name on a forum asking about something relating to my job - say the wrong thing or something in the wrong way - bye bye job!

I can also understand why people were/are skeptical about the post, MET police horses are trained at Imber Court and not by the riders, they have specific trainers there. If a horse has a vice, it is not down to the rider to 'fix it', it would have to go back to the trainers.

Having just spoken to one of those trainers on the phone, who incidentally had already seen this post and plans to 'investigate' on Monday morning, they would be quite ticked off if a Police rider tried to train/re-train one of the horses, especially if they were on-duty.
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This was my point Assuan. OP has said on previous posts that she (and I believe it is a she, as she says she was given an 18hh horse to ride although she is only 5'5") has been riding since she was six, has an advanced dressage horse, and is an AI. When she is on duty, she is there to protect the public - not retrain the horse she is sitting on.
Why would someone with the experience she claims to have, not know how to make her horse stand for prolonged periods of time?
Some of her previous threads also sound a little ficticious.
 
Holly Hocks said:
Why would someone with the experience she claims to have, not know how to make her horse stand for prolonged periods of time?
Some of her previous threads also sound a little ficticious.
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Couldn't agree more.
The previous questions on rugs seems a little inexperienced to me......

But, we could be wrong - doubt it though. :D
 
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