Rearing in young horses

And its people like you who rush young horses who caused it to take me 3 years to stop a horse from rearing whenever it panicked or got nervous. Thankfully now although its always a rearer and always will be I trust her and I struggle to remember when she last reared or threatened to.

Take it back to square one lead it in hand and gain its trust only then can you start long reining again but only with someone also leading from the bridle. Personally though I would take the horse off you now.
 
young_eventer - I think you need to pass this horse back to its owner before you or the horse get hurt. There is no need for this at all. All youngsters have the potential to be nappy - but if they are "done right" it will never be an issue, because the idea is that it would understand and accept what you are asking. I firmly believe that the mare does not undertand what you are asking. I have re-schooled "rearers" in the past but have never pushed them in the way that you are doing as it would compound the problem. How many horses have you broken/re broken/ re schooled out of interest?
 
YE - you ask about 'compounding the problem'. I don't want to jump on the bandwagon of attacking you as I don't want to look as if I'm just following the gang, BUT, this is a pretty basic bit of horse phycology & you really need to understand the basics of how a horse learns if you are to back a youngster.

In a nutshell, a horse learns through repitition, whether good or bad. Therefore, every time the horse rears, the 'habit' of rearing is more ingrained in his head, 'this is what I do'. The best way to solve so many problems with a horse, is to remove the trigger, thus 'unbreaking' the habit.

You cannot just take the 'it will soon learn that it doesn't achieve anything by doing it' approach that so many people try - it's humanising the horse way too much!
 
get a "bowen" person out..just to check out her physical well-being..as the poor thing is obviously in pain and deals with it the only way she can...
 
Hi. I think your post is the first one ever that actually made me feel angry. WHY, WHY or WHY do inexperienced people take on the task of bringing on young, sensitive horses??? This is something my brain just can't process!
I don't know you and Imight be very wrong but after reading your replies your attitute is scary! If you are an honest person you should advise the owner that you don't have enough experience to start this horse and that someone very confident should now take over.
The fact you posted on here asking for advice gives me a little hope that you are willing to learn but for the sake of this horse I do hope that you go and learn under a supervison of someone who will directs you and guides you appropriately.
 
I dont think it was a mick take as the OP was askiing for livery in my town last week, I coudlnt help as they needed it for quite a few horses, about 4 or 5 I think.

This mare needs to be taken back to the start and she needs a different attitude to be taken towards her. Horses do not flip themselves over risking harm to themselves unless there is a serious problem.
 
I too can't believe this poster is telling the truth, as anyone who is supposedly competent enough to back horses for money would have more sense.
There is one reason only the horse is rearing and that's because it's confused what's asked of it.
Like everyone else I suggest you go back to stage one (actually I would prefer stage zero and you give it to someone with more sensitivity)
it needs disciplined quiet lunging until it is happy with doing that, then leading out from an older horse before long reining again. If it is rearing it is because of fear of pain in it's mouth, either you aren't skilled enough to turn it sideways when things start to go wrong, or you're heavy handed. Sorry to be so blunt but a horse is highly unlikley to go over backwards without someone on the end of the reins helping it.
Sometimes it's best to hand the job onto someone else, we do on occasions before we make things worse, and there is no shame in it, one of our backers is well over 50 and doesn't bounce well, and the other is busy competing and doesn't want to risk falling off.
I am not sure whether this post is a total wind up to be honest, I do hope so, otherwise poor poor horse...
 
It sounds like this problem didnt start with you, but maybe the horse needs some time to chill out and regain some confidence after whatever may have happened before you got it.. it is difficult to know what may have happened before you got the horse, but you need to give it a reason to believe that in your hands it is safe, and you are not going to put too much pressure on.

Most horses only rear because all of their other options are blocked, eg stopping/going forwards or sideways, so maybe this needs to be explored a bit, if, like you say nothing is physically wrong

This is one of the reasons i generally prefer a blank canvas, so to speak, when I get sent horses to break..

good luck
 
Im getting confused, is this the poster who kept advertising all the time?
With the website in the north east? or am i thinking of someone else?

I think its disgusting that someone would allow you to take their horse on if this is your attitiude towards the mare.
 
Just remember this OP has been using various names [3 to my knowledge] in the past few weeks some of his posts disappeared so I presume admin did it.I don't feel this is a genuine post and wonder what his name will be next week
 
bizzare!
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Maybe the horse IS just a stubborn cow. If shes done all this stuff before with her owner then there must be another reason why shes doing it.
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Which is why, as stated at various points in the thread, you get physical problems checked and sorted and then take it back to a stage where it is comfortable and happy and only bring it on very slowly. From nothing to long reining in less than a week on a horse which has issues is going to cause the animal stress - and then the problems which this person is being paid to remove are exacerbated.
 
If this post is real then please please take the horse back to leading, then in due course lunging. She needs to be going FORWARD. Long reining is clearly scaring the living day lights out of her
 
young_eventer has a link in their profile.

Is THIS the person we know as young_eventer:

http://www.northerneventing.co.uk/aboutmickey.htm

If so Id be a bit worried. He seems to have only done Pony Club and up to Discovery BSJA but further on says he's just got into eventing last year YET plans to be doing young riders and 2* eventing in the next season and a half?! Bit of a step up suddenly isnt it? Wait, is this defamatory...?!!! Woops if so.
 
What an odd post.....
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I wouldnt still have it in a devoucoux if it keeps going over though, blooming nice saddles!
 
I agree with Mrussell and furry ears. The horse is obviously rearing and throwing itself over for a reason.
And a PROFESSIONAL would go back to basics and get to the root of the problem not be wanting to pressure the poor mare any more by getting on her.
IMO the horse needs taking off you and giving to someone with proper experience and common sense.
 
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