Red and White? What a load of Codswallop!

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Someone linked an ad to a pony the other day and in the very first line it is described as Red and White - what the hell is that for Goodness Sake?! We are not talking about a bowl of strawberries and cream but a little Skewbald Pony!

Doesn't sound so glamorous now, does it? It amazes me how utterly pretentious some people are!

What will be next? pink and white strawberry roans?

Just had to come out of the sun for a bit and the Red and White line had made me chuckle :D
 
Ravenwood said:
Someone linked an ad to a pony the other day and in the very first line it is described as Red and White - what the hell is that for Goodness Sake?! We are not talking about a bowl of strawberries and cream but a little Skewbald Pony!

Doesn't sound so glamorous now, does it? It amazes me how utterly pretentious some people are!

What will be next? pink and white strawberry roans?

Just had to come out of the sun for a bit and the Red and White line had made me chuckle :D
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:D Quite so! The Lemon and White amuses me too! Then there is Blue and White. In the 'old' days of PC there was just piebald, skewbald and anything else was 'odd-coloured' , bays were dark or light, ditto chestnut with the odd liver chucked in, greys were dappled, rose, iron or fleabitten, palomino was gold - not chocolate or sooty, black was black not sooty, silver or dusty etc

Enjoy the sun, strawberries and cream for tea tonight then?;)
 
It is a common term.. Skewbald doesn't just mean "chesnut and & white" it's any colour besides black, and white.

So they are simply saying what it is :shrugs: ... I hear and use that term it all the time.
 
i agree with above by saying 'red and white' someone automaticly knows its chestnut and white, same with all of the above, lemon and white, blue and white etc
its just a more detailed way of identifying the colour
I dont see what the problem is tbh
 
GeorgieLee said:
i agree with above by saying 'red and white' someone automaticly knows its chestnut and white, same with all of the above, lemon and white, blue and white etc
its just a more detailed way of identifying the colour
I dont see what the problem is tbh
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No problem whatsoever.

Try living in North America, colours are way beyond simple. :) Amusing but harmless.

I go to a sale yard and ask for them to "Cut out that black Paint, that chrome bay and the sorrel colt" what I am looking at is a piebald and a bay mare with white legs and her chestnut foal. Say piebald and skewbald and I get blank looks.

I have what looks like a palomino, is registered as a palomino, but genetically is not a palomino (tested before I bought her) If I advertised her as a Dunalino then I'd get twice as many people wanting to see her,
a) because palominos are as common as flies on a muck heap, and
b) because of the greater colour possibilities for breeding.
 
People just know more about the genetics behind the colours now, that's all. There's a big genetic difference between a bay tobiano and a chestnut overo, for example, but we Brits would still normally call them both skewbalds. Nothing wrong with using the correct terminology, IMO. Try teaching British people that there's a difference between a dun and a buckskin...
 
I got an apology from Wetherbys as they couldn't put my mares on NED with her correct colour description Bay and white overo.
They had no option for overo or frame overo so she is listed as skewbald.
 
GeorgieLee said:
i agree with above by saying 'red and white' someone automaticly knows its chestnut and white, same with all of the above, lemon and white, blue and white etc
its just a more detailed way of identifying the colour
I dont see what the problem is tbh
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I agree. Skewbald gives you an idea, but red and white is more specific.
My boy's reciept of sale states red and white.
He is obviously technically skewbald, but on a yard of coloured horses (for example) .."the red and white one has a cut on his leg" would lead you to the correct horse straight away.
 
LOL - I have touched a nerve obviously ;)

So a question to those of you who call your horses red and white.....if it had no white patches, would it just be called Red? Or would it revert back to a boring old bay or chestnut?
 
I first heard the term when I had a driving lesson with my pair of skewbald mares, one bay & white, one chestnut & white. As my instructor (who frequently shows with BSPA and CHAPS) didn't remember their names (especially in a hurry), she referred to them as "The red&white needs to be more forward, more contact on the bay&white" etc. I knew exactly which one she meant!
I found it odd at the time, but try saying "chestnut & white" in a hurry over "red & white".. Personally I think she a strawberry roan skewbald, and her name, Pumpkin, was pretty memorable, buy hey. I still refer to her as the red and white now. You get red & white cows after all:D:D
 
not come across red and white but when I was in PC in the Dark Ages my friend had a 'blue dun' which I thought was the height of sophistication, and I always used to refer to my pony as 'iron grey'. So it's not new, though I do take your point that is all a bit chi-chi!
 
I've got a Pink mule :D
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It was me that posted the link. I don't know why they have advertised her as red and white, but one minute shes chestnut and white the next shes a bay and white depending on the seasons. Its a real shame that they are selling her as I loved that horse very much, but I do hope she ends up in a good home. She suffers from sweet itch so she has to have her mane hogged, but infact in her passport it says that shes a skewbald so im not sure why there advertising her as a red and white lol.

Very sad I must say, for me anyways seeing her up for sale now. Felt great booing my eyes out last night lol only kidding :)
 
I don't mind red and white-as there is brown and white (stereotypical skewbald) and then the much redder (and can be much mnicer or MUCH uglier) and white that can also be defined as skewbald but it gives an idea.
 
Ravenwood said:
LOL - I have touched a nerve obviously ;)

So a question to those of you who call your horses red and white.....if it had no white patches, would it just be called Red? Or would it revert back to a boring old bay or chestnut?
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Lol. It's not something I feel terribly strongly about really!
To answer your question, he would revert back to boring chestnut. He is generally just referred to as Ginge anyway, despite being mostly white.
After I'd done my last post, I remembered something my farrier asked me a while ago. He asked me what colour I would describe him as, and I said skewbald, but his apprentice piped up and said that he was always told that colour would be red and white..so heck if I know!
 
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