Red Rum....

[merlinsquest]

Does anyone have any books on him or Ginger Mcain which would show where they lived other than behind the car lot in southport???

I have been to a stables in Littlethorpe, Ripon, Yorkshire that was owned by my Uncle and he said it was Ginger McCains.... Ox close was the address I think, but now I cant find anything about it on the internet!!!

Thanks

 

[Taboo1968]

Merlin - just noticed your location! Are you still christmas shopping for this year or have you started for 2008???

Sorry off topic but did wonder if you were planning ahead!

 

[merlinsquest]

Ooops, erm yes, er no....... oh bugger!!!

Will see to that immediately!!!

 

[Taboo1968]

Ah its changed!!! You could have changed it to New Years Shopping in the Jan Sales!

 

[Maesfen]

I might be wrong but I was under the impression he started at Southport behind his garage and then moved straight to Cholmondeley Park where they still are now although Donald has the licence now but Ginger still helps out. We often see him at the local pub!

 

[Baggybreeches]

Yep! thats right! Ginger started with a permit behind his car showroom in Birkdale, Southport, and moved in the 90's to Chomondeley in Cheshire.

 

[merlinsquest]

Oh.... sure I read somewhere that the house where Uncle lived was the jockeys/grooms cottage for Gingers racing yard...

MFH-09 could you pop over and ask him next time???

he he

 

[lachlanandmarcus]

Its def Birkdale then Cheshire. They got Red Rum fit (dodgy legs) on the really huge sandy beach there - free gallops.

 

[Maesfen]

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Oh.... sure I read somewhere that the house where Uncle lived was the jockeys/grooms cottage for Gingers racing yard...

MFH-09 could you pop over and ask him next time???

he he

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I'll try to remember, he's very approachable!

 

[The Virgin Dubble]

Yep definitely on the Cholmondeley estate.
We went to a barbeque on the estate, at the yard of an eventer who is based right next door to the McCains.
I was soo tempted to have a snoop around

 

[mizzhonesty]

If i see her around on msn I'll ask one of the ex stable girls for ginger

 

[merlinsquest]

That would be great..... I find it hard to think my uncle would have lied to me about Rummy and Ginger being there but you never know!!!

It was a house up a long track and the only things I can remember about it were the words Littlethorpe, Ox Close and Ripon.... the main house had lovely stables and the owners even showed me Red Rums stable

I think their name was Hannan or something similar.

My uncles bungalow was used for the grooms/jockeys (probably grooms as I dont suppose that jockeys lived on site)
until he bought it.

My husband thinks that I am a serial liar now

so please help me get some credability back

 

[MurphysMinder]

I've got a book on Rummy somewhere will try and dig it out and have a look. But I too think he started at Birkdale behind the car lot, and move from there to Cholmondely. I "met" Red Rum a couple of times when he attended local events in his retirement, he was the most incredible character. Is it possible Red Rum was at the yard in Ripon before he went to Ginger McCain?

 

[Baggybreeches]

I am sorry to burst you bubble, but Red Rum, didnt ever live in Yorkshire, maybe I am the eternal optimist, but perhaps your uncle is confused or misinformed?

 

[merlinsquest]

I suppose that is possible.... or maybe dementia is setting in!!

Wierd thing is that I thought that I saw it in an official biography type book on Ginger McCain and Red Rum as well.....

I will delve deeper into this as its bugging me.... bubble or not I will find out

 

[MurphysMinder]

Right, found the book and skimmed through it. Your Uncle is partly right. Ginger McCain started at the car lot in Southport, and moved to Cholmondeley. However, Red Rum was trained in Yorkshire befor Ginger McCain bought him for Noel Le mare. He was trained by Bobbie Renton and Antony Gillam, at Oxclose, Ripon.
Hope that sorts it.

 

[merlinsquest]

MurphysMinder, thanks so much, I knew that I had read about it too...... husband has been gloating all weekend that I am a delusional numpty that would believe anyone

He is now suitably humbled!!!

Ok I got the Ginger McCain bit wrong but then I was only 14 when I was told (am a lot lot older now..... try transposing the numbers)!!!

Thanks again