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I have just read an item in telegraph about a disabled and sick dog being imported from Bulgaria, to give him a good home. The dog can not use its back legs, is incontinent and has other problems. Two rescues involved, one the importer the other (rspca)took him to a vet after complaint made, plus on to a specialist for second opinion.

Apart from the whole ethics, the comments left by people who think the dog must live are almost agressive, and I struggle to understand how can they be so determined a sick disabled dog should be saved, when we have plenty of dogs/horses and other animals in shelters which do not get the same publicity.
 
This has been all over fb and seems to have attracted fluffy bunnies from all over, its quality not quantity in my book and there is no way I would put this poor dog through this.

When you consider dogs are being pts everyday, nice healthy young dogs because there are not the homes for them and then you see this, I think sometimes the worlds gone mad.
 
I saw this on FB earlier and, although I am all for giving dogs a chance and not just having dogs PTS (as it seems so often the RSPCA do), I thought this case was really sad – for the dog.

They are/were trying to get people to sign some petition to stop the dog being PTS (although the PTS date has now passed) but I could not sign something like that once I’d read the story. I was shocked by the amount of people who were saying the dog could have wheels etc etc!

I feel for the poor dog as it should not have been left to live like this and, my feelings were the poor mite should have been PTS a long time ago. I know people get very passionate about these things but they really need to think about what they are saying. Plus, I highly doubt any of those ‘campaigning’ to save it would not step forward to take the pup in! For once I actually hope the RSPCA and those vets concerned do the right thing by this pup so as to avoid it having a life of suffering no matter how well-meaning those behind the actions believe they are
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Unfortunately this dog is just one of many, I've encountered a few recently that I've thought should have been PTS long before they travelled all that way. People are spending £££ importing sick dogs with poor quality of life to what are often unsuitable homes (the number that are escaping or being passed on soon after being imported is quite alarming).

There's lots of emotive and bizarre commentary on Facebook, I think I posted once before about the "you saved a rommie dog hun OMG you are gaurdian angel bless you xXx" type thing, I can't quite get my head around it. I've also seen serious aggression and death threats made about a particular case, the police were involved in that one, unbelievable stuff.
 
CaveCanem said:
If it was my own dog I would PTS, never mind transport it so far with all those problems :(
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I did, the day I found out he'd never walk again and about 24 hours before he first fell over and couldn't get up. Why the heck would you put a poor dog through that? :frown3:

Pressure sore on the dog in question's leg, down to the bone, apparently :(:

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blackcob said:
(the number that are escaping or being passed on soon after being imported is quite alarming).
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So adding to the rescue problem? :frown3:

Honestly, I don't think we should be importing more dogs from wherever over here when our own rescues are in crisis, stuffed full of hopeless cases. Call me horrible, but I say PTS the ones that can't be re-homed or the really aggressive ones and don't import more!
 
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The animal "lovers" that are condemning PTS and fighting to save the lives of animals like this are ADDING to the pain and suffering.

A true animal lover will put the welfare of the animal AHEAD of their own misguided human emotions.

It is selfish, it is admirable to want to help, but it is selfish.
 
I think what I like about this forum, is that most people understand animals, and put their welfare first before their own human emotions and feelings.

I cannot understand why a "Rescue organisation" would let the dog in pain with such disability and injury undergo such a traumatic experience, the long journey, several homes, vets etc, for me kindest option was to put out of pain peacefully where he was originally.
 
Adopter said:
I think what I like about this forum, is that most people understand animals, and put their welfare first before their own human emotions and feelings.

I cannot understand why a "Rescue organisation" would let the dog in pain with such disability and injury undergo such a traumatic experience, the long journey, several homes, vets etc, for me kindest option was to put out of pain peacefully where he was originally.
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Personally, I think that it is either/or because A: they're selfish, fluffy bunny huggers with blinkers, B: they want the free publicity they get.

I think that it is both sad and a madness that cases like this happen, I don't know if it needs saying, but I really don't share their belief in that life is always worth living at any cost. For example, a handicapped dog can't entertain themselves with reading books, use the internet, watch TV etc.
 
It should have been PTS where it was, not travelled and fostered in 2 homes (albeit one not for very long) before the RSPCA stepped in.
 
The threads on fb were really eye opening. A handful of sane voices amongst a sea of fanatics.

Soul destroying. That poor, poor dog.
 
The poor dog should have been pts not brought over here. It doesn't often happen but I fully support the RSPCA in this case. Also as blackcob says, far too many seem to be escaping from their new owners or in transit. There is currently a caucasian x carpathian shepherd cross on doglost that escaped from its new owners after apparently coming in from romania. They are saying not too approach the dog as it is very nervous :(
 
The fact that there are so many of these dogs escaping, bogging off etc, or showing aggression says a lot, to me. They don't realise that they have been 'saved' or 'rescued' or that someone 'loves' them, they are just bloody terrified of the situation that they have been forced into. They are not used to nor to they want to be living in houses, be around people (a massive threat to them), travelling, it's just stress upon stress upon stress on dogs that were never designed to cope with it. In their old lives, they could run, and escape stress/defend themselves from perceived threat. How does that translate when they arrive here? Not well.
 
Given the situation and how unprepared the rescue organisation was for the arrival of this dog - im staggered that the Rspca returned the dog.

Lets hope he doesn't get let down again by the rescue organisation that brought him over.
 
Ive answered on that fb page and there are just a few of us speakiing common sense, Ive been told we only want hand-bag dogs over here that is why we have so many dogs unwanted in rescue.

The general consensus is there are a least 2 Romanian dogs a week going awol, these stupid people are letting them off a lead after a week or unsupervised in their garden. No one seems to be able to give a figure of how many are coming in, this is just an accident waiting to happen, people think they just need love and comfort and a lot of people taking these dogs would be turned down by a normal rescue that is why they are turning to these Romanian dogs.
 
Handbag dogs? These people have quite clearly not bothered to look at what our rescues are holding. I find it abhorrent that these people would put a distressed ill dog through this and effectively, happily stand back and wash their hands of the huge numbers of healthy, young dogs being PTS daily in the UK. Depending on which site you look at, I see numbers quoted of between 70 and 90 dogs are destroyed every day...
 
CaveCanem said:
The fact that there are so many of these dogs escaping, bogging off etc, or showing aggression says a lot, to me. They don't realise that they have been 'saved' or 'rescued' or that someone 'loves' them, they are just bloody terrified of the situation that they have been forced into. They are not used to nor to they want to be living in houses, be around people (a massive threat to them), travelling, it's just stress upon stress upon stress on dogs that were never designed to cope with it. In their old lives, they could run, and escape stress/defend themselves from perceived threat. How does that translate when they arrive here? Not well.
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Absolutely.

That poor dog - he must be in so much pain.
 
I heard about that. I think it is disgusting the way they have handled it.

I do actually own an imported rescue dog, so I don't say that from the perspective of objecting to the principle.
 
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Such madness bringing in dogs from other countries when we are having to pts so many here already. I love dogs how do you stop this happening ?
 
Google the transporters name...one of them done for psychic fraud... then add the numbers of animals brought over times it by the transport fee... then by the many trips per month and work out the profit.... then the rommie rescuers who arent genuine (some are) who clap their hands everytime there is a terribly injured cat or dog.. who ask for donations for care, operations and foster etc... then the animal dies alot of the times... blah blah..... it is a big business for some people...... the transporters after losing a recent court case with another transporter over a vehicle they did or didnt sell to them, have now stopped transporting from romania and moved on to croatia and other lands i believe.... so you wont stop it because it is biggggggg business... i think the lot looking after the dog now have recently got their charity status and can draw wages...
 
I have just taken on a rescue from Romania - he came over with about 10 others, he was very poorly and had to have a blood transfusion.

I've had him three weeks now (came over in November) and he is the sweetest, loveliest tempered chap. He does not go out unless he's on a lead - we have 5 foot hedges, but I'm certain he'd get out if he wanted to. When I contacted the rescue home I had no idea he was from Romania - was only when I'd put in my request that I was told and by that time I'd fallen in love with him.

Agree there are so many dogs already in this country that need re homing, and do wonder at the ethics of bringing over a dog that clearly needs to be PTs - however I'm really glad I've found my boy - he's like a miniature Irish wolf hound :)
 
I am no fluffy bunny (read my other posts) and did question people about this dogs story on FB.
I don't think any disabled dog should be transpoted/passed from pillar to post. Has anyone watched the video of this dog as he really does seem to be one happy little lad-he is definatley one that makes me question does he know he is disabled and does it bother him?

the whole import process has been terrible, the dog was fostered by a woman experienced with fostering dogs who then neglected his needs (apparently she shut him away and not tend to him) so he ended up with open sores, then she phoned the RSPCA as she was concerned for his welfare-all sounds very odd to me-dog has been vet assessed and the decision has been made that he is not in pain and it is reasonable to treat him.

I dont agree with importing dogs to another country unless they have a confirmed experienced home to go to-puppy farming is on the increase in countries like Bulgaria and in many cases dogs are thought to be intentionally maimed as they can raise more money from a pity case.
 
The full facts of any situation are always difficult to verrify on the internet and in the press, but I prefer the WHW, and similar organisations approach of working within a country to educate people to look after their animals better. I realise that in many cases, people have so little themselves the animals are low on the list, but we do not solve the problem or improve the situation by just removing some dogs.
 
They will have no luck working in Romania there is a mass cull out there atm... and they arent pts as we know it, they are starved in the shelters.. which are not like out shelters.. they kill each other through hunger, they catch diseases.. its an awful situation for stray animals out there.. even people walking their pet dogs have been attacked and killed protecting their pets...
 
JosieB said:
They will have no luck working in Romania there is a mass cull out there atm... and they arent pts as we know it, they are starved in the shelters.. which are not like out shelters.. they kill each other through hunger, they catch diseases.. its an awful situation for stray animals out there.. even people walking their pet dogs have been attacked and killed protecting their pets...
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so maybe a humane cull should be carried out? at least the end will be swift with a little suffering as possible
 
JosieB said:
They will have no luck working in Romania there is a mass cull out there atm... and they arent pts as we know it, they are starved in the shelters.. which are not like out shelters.. they kill each other through hunger, they catch diseases.. its an awful situation for stray animals out there.. even people walking their pet dogs have been attacked and killed protecting their pets...
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It still seems very sad to me that a rescue organisation cannot take some action or find a way to fund the animals being put down humanely in the shelters, if this is known about.
 
Elfen, I am glad you are happy, but in all honesty I completely disagree with what you did. You may not have actually imported him, but you are perpetuating the problem. I see this as no different to buying a puppy from a store that gets it's puppies from "puppy factories"

How long before it's profitable enough to start stealing dogs to ship across? Starve them for a few weeks, cover them in mud, instant 'rescue'.

It is deplorable and we have enough issues in this country. All of the money spent on 'rescuing' those dogs could have been put towards a) euthanizing them b) orphanages in the respective countries. How do these dogs even get in to the country if they are "very poorly" given our quarantine controls? I think you've been told whatever they thought would make you adopt in all honesty.

Can I ask what your adoption fee was?
 
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