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Hi, my friend has a four and a half yo irish sports horse, rising 17hh. he's a lovely horse, however he has developed a lot of problems on the ground! his riding obviously needs improving but that's not so much of a problem. does anyone know someone in the York area who would be able to do some schooling? it would not be possible to do it herself as we are 16 and he has really knocked her confidence. thanks in advance, any suggestions considered ;) x
 
Hello there, I have just bought a two year old 16 hand warmblood.... Horses like discipline, routine and kindness. In just over two weeks I can do all four feet, move him about and generally love him. Patience and discipline..... Just because they are big doesn't make them more difficult xx
 
Always use a headcollar, make him understand you say when he can have his feed/haynet, make a point of backing him up/ moving him over, if you think you are in control, you are, don't let him push you around, horses respect boundaries
 
Moomin1 said:
If it's not possible for your friend to school her horse, I would suggest she sells him. :-)
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I am inclined to agree with this. I've always felt that youngsters should not have youngsters unless they have an experienced adult who is helping them.

In the meantime, lots of groundwork would help.
 
A good professional should be able to help you, but to start with whey need to not only train the horse but the owner too. You might need a few sessions just on the groundwork before any ridden schooling is attempted. It needs to get to the point that the owner can safely and easily handle the horse herself without the professional there.
 
Faracat said:
A good professional should be able to help you, but to start with whey need to not only train the horse but the owner too. You might need a few sessions just on the groundwork before any ridden schooling is attempted. It needs to get to the point that the owner can safely and easily handle the horse herself without the professional there.
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Owner training sounds a great idea. I very much doubt it's a matter of respect but one of training and and management not being clear and consistent. Horses have to actually be taught how to behave around us.
 
she has really tried this! he is just so strong that he drags her! he is just so interested in everything that he is trying to look round and doesn't listen to her. he rides lovely however because he has to listen, I agree that horses do respect boundaries.
 
I would agree, however my friend bought a 5 yo 3 years ago, brought him on lovely, perfectly schooled in all disciplines. she also helps at a race yard, schooling and exercising. I think its not that she is not able to do it, I just feel that she may need help getting him to listen to her on the ground.
 
cagsandcracker said:
thanks, she has been working on him loads! I'm with her most weekends and he has always made massive improvements, purely from her hard work. its just he doesn't realise how strong he is xx
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I think it's the other way round...he does realise! So he uses it! I got my 17.3 when I was 15...... She could literally push me over with her nose if she wanted. However we have very clear rules and she understands voice commands (it's the only way as she is so big). We have maybe 15 to 20 words she recognises and. Understands what I want when i say them i.e and stand = we are stopping now, halt = stand still, wait = don't move! over = move over etc.

Unfortunately confidence is a huge part of this, and having the conviction to mean it! There have been many cases when really i have felt scared sh**less.... But under no circumstances can I show this! How long has your friend owned this horse? The bond/relationship really does matter when asking for respect from a horse!
 
I think perhaps he does know how strong he is and that's the problem. It can be a difficult age and your friend needs to be constantly schooling and teaching manners.

Someone with experience needs to get involved what about her parents??? My mum wouldn't let me have my own horse when young but If she did she would have been extremely involved.

Does your friend not have a RI?
 
3months, she was very confident but a couple of weeks ago he tried to bomb of with her in the field when she was bringing him in, she wouldn't let go and he seemed to get better after this as he realised he couldn't boss her this way. however, like 2/3 days ago he went crazy, I don't know exactly what went on, all I know is that it ended in her getting clipped with his front hooves as he reared. this is just absolutely shattered her confidence :/
 
Hi everyone, I'd just like to update you all. Over the past week she has been doing a lot of ground work single handed. He now backs up perfect and respects her space.She has begun to take him for walks in hand down hacking routes to enforce his good behaviour and this appears to work well and seems to be strengthening the bond. Thanks for all your advice.
 
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