Return of the owner!

keelind

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Hello again all :) This is an update on Zack, we've come to a cross-roads and I've no idea what to do! For those who don't know the brief story is that after a long absence from riding, by total chance I ended up taking over a horse whose owner was absent. He has issues when riding but otherwise is as sweet as can be and makes me want to work every day to turn him into the amazing horse he must've been before. The only other horse on the yard is ridden by a nutty woman who almost caused a major accident, whom I have since avoided like the plague. It's been a few months since the day we fell over and Zack was vastly improved, but just recently Zack's actual owner has returned (new year's resolution) and so have Zack's problems.

Just before new year his owner returned to say she'll be riding the Zack too now, so we worked out a schedule. At first I was dubious but it turns out she's really lovely and we get on well together and think very alike where Zack is concerned :) she also filled me in on some of his backstory that was missing and it turns out he was much more badly treated than I was told, so I'm a bit surprised he doesn't have MORE problems. She told me that she's switching yards in summer to a much, much better location with more horses, riders and facilities, something I'm REALLY looking forward to.

The problem is that since his owner started to ride him again Zack has regressed. Originally he had a problem with being tied up and would rear backward, but I weaned him off that and he learned to stand like a rock. It had been so long since he last panicked I'd even completely forgotten about it, until just recently when he was tied up waiting for the farrier to arrive and took me by surprise. I was bent over picking ice out of his foot and his owner arrived in her car and got out - Zack jerked backward nearly KOing me, snapped the buckle of his leadrope clean off and bolted away. Now we both have to watch him like a hawk because he will try to break free every few minutes when tied and re-training has had no effect.

The owner also rides out with my ex-riding buddy (who I had avoided since the day of the accident) and zack's issues with being separated from his field companion are back full strength. It's a fight to get him off the yard again and the minute we turn for home he turns into a wannabe steeple chaser. This has gotten so bad I've had my boyfriend walk out with me because having someone on the ground walking nearby is the only thing keeping him manageable when he's out alone.

What's probably the worst is that because he is giving me so much trouble about going out alone again I gave in to peer pressure and let the YO and Zack's owner coax me into riding my the ex-riding buddy again. Ex-buddy and the owner have ground rules they worked out between themselves which say Zack must always be in front, amongst other things. Ex-buddy gives Zack's owner zero issues, so I figured maybe she had learned something. We went out together and on the very first ride ex-buddy broke every single rule. I don't know what it is about me that she's so pathological about since she listens to what Zack's owner says without fail!!

Combined with that since our disastrous ride together I caught ex-buddy bitching about me to Zack's owner and the YO, both times lying about what happened. We had a blazing confrontation where I called her out and repeated some of the things she had said which had been passed on to me and it ended with ex-buddy crying and having some kind of emotional breakdown then running off to the YO for comfort. Since then YO has been frosty with me and I've no bloody clue why, but I'm not in the mood to have another blazing row with someone over whatever it is.

I flatly refuse to ride out with the ex-buddy. But riding Zack alone now that he's gone back to square one (in fact he's worse) isn't an option because he has become dangerous and I'm starting to feel anxious before I even get on his back. I'm in total despair because Zack's owner reports how much improved he is and how amazing her rides with the ex-buddy are. The final straw came last week when I was tacking him up and tried to put a saddle on Zack and he shied away, something he has NEVER done before. That day I threw in the towel, rang Zack's owner and said I couldn't ride him anymore, but she pleaded with me to stay and reminded me he is changing yards come summer. But summer is a long time away and I'm scared I'll end up in another accident before then, this time one of both of us getting badly injured.

Do I walk away or do I stay?? :confused: I feel like Zack needs me and part of me says we can regain the ground we lost and more, but another part of me is scared and frustrated. I wake up worrying about him in the middle of the night :( and my boyfriend says anything giving me this much grief just isn't worth it. I'm starting to agree...
 
Sounds like the owner and the yard are as much part of Zacks issues as anything else. Could you not offer to buy him and then move him somewhere more suitable? A change of scene could make a big difference, especially as he has had bad experiences with the people/yard he's at. To be honest they all sound like a bunch of morons, so you're going to be struggling to make any progress while ever the're involved.
 
It's sad to say you can't 'save' them all. You are in an impossible situation here. Zacks owner is calling the shots and is influenced by the YO and ex buddy.....Walk away and don't look back. It's a shame for Zack but there is a better owner and loan horse around the corner. Keep strong...and good luck!
 
I remember your last thread and its such a shame things are going backwards with poor Zach.
Could you have a really honest chat with the owner explaining how you feel, how much you've done with him, him clearly being a one person horse etc and the observations you have made since she returned on the scene?
It sounds like it needs to be all or nothing with this horse for you. Could you offer to buy him (guess loaning wouldn't be an option as you would sort him out again then she'd want him back?) or hate to say it, walk away for your own sanity and safety.
Best of luck.
 
Thanks guys. Around christmas I was thinking how nice it'd be if I could just buy him :) I earn enough to pay yard bills and extras, saving up the cash to buy him will probably take some time but could be worthwhile. Even if he never made a fantastic hacking out horse he's very willing when schooled and such a cuddler. I have my guess on how much he's worth, but I hear his owner paid a lot for him. That and she's so happy at how much better and less spooky he is, at least when he's with his field buddy, I don't think she'd take me up on the offer.

I haven't gotten on his back for just over a week now and today we're supposed to be meeting at the yard to talk things over his problems and how we're going to tackle them, but it just feels so hopeless. I'm seriously starting to doubt we can even 90% fix him. It's really shocking how in a matter of weeks he picked up all those old traits :(
 
I say walk away, you can't fix a horse when people immediately unfix him. Horses are meant to be relaxing and enjoyable, the people surrounding that horse seem to be a nightmare. Shame but I would leave them to it.
 
Is it worth putting in all the effort for a horse thatsnot yours. Status quo has changed with his wonder coming back and the new state of play clearly doesn't work for you. You can't change the circumstances as he is not yours. Walk away. Its only going to end in more tears. Save up livery costs and extras for a few months and buy your own horse, over whom you will have full say
 
Do NOT buy him. He sounds like a horse with very dangerous problems and while I understand that it may be the owner who is causing the regression, it may just be that he has regressed all by himself - some horses are like that. If he were mine I would be suspecting serious physical or mental issues and getting a very experienced vet out to him before doing anything else.

Find another share, you will be shocked to see how easy and pleasurable it is to handle and ride a horse without severe behavioural issues. If you don't want another share save some money and buy your own.
 
I learnt the hard way that when riding and caring for someone else's horse, bringing them on etc, it can all get thrown back in your face.

My advice to myself if I was ever stupid enough to find myself back in that situation again, (I now will not share or loan, full stop) would be to offer to buy the horse, and if refused, walk away.
 
Walk away. Its bad enough having to deal with yard issues when its your own horse. Your having to put up with a lot of blood, sweat & tears + cash for a horse that isn't yours.
 
Sit down with her somewhere away from the yard but on equal grounds - coffee shop etc.
Tell her the important things. Tell her what happened with the riding buddy and say that you simply aren't comfortable going out again with her. Mention tying etc and see if you can find a trigger - she might be happy to chat through if you stopped it once so she can relax too.

If you want full control - buy. If you are happy in the main, sit her down. She obviously wants you there or wouldn't be asking to stay with the fact you'll be moving yards. I'd put money on her knowing the problems but keeping head down before she goes. Does he mind someone on foot with him hacking? Maybe suggest going out with her and vice versa as he is coming along so well. I wouldn't switch on this horse though.

I'd leave decision making til you've had time to adjust to the new yard if you like owner and horse and if the new yard has lots of nice hacking for you to continue him on.

Or if you want that bit more control. Let him go and save up in the months not paying for him.
 
Walk away. You'll probably be crying your eyes out when you do, but Zack has 3 people who are taking notice of him and somewhere close, there'll be another horse out there who needs you and is waiting.
 
i agree with the others that say walk away. it will only upset you more being around especially as you don't get on with the YO or buddy AND you are having problems with Zack.
failing that maybe when you speak to the owner today you tell her that you cannot go to that yard anymore so unless she moves him sooner rather than later you will have to end the arrangement. if she really wants your help then she may do it.
 
Sorry to say it but I would walk away. Life is too short to waste time with people that don't seem to have any respect for you. The exbuddy sounds downright dangerous.
 
The world is full of nice sensible horses , save up and buy one of your own and walk away from this horse and these people.
 
Sorry if I have misunderstood op but weren't you having problems before the owner came back? I think as he is not your horse I would walk away.
 
Yeah Kateo he came with quite a bundle of different issues. In the hands of a more skilled rider and on a different yard he'd probably thrive, but with me he can be a challenge.

Mini update: owner has let me down and changed plans so we won't be meeting up today, but we're rescheduling. Right now, at this point in time, I think I'm going to walk away. It just feels like I'm running out on him :(
 
I'm sure that you would be able to find a horse to share that doesn't have so many issues that you could enjoy more.
 
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