Rider weight and weeing?

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Woody, my mini draught horse, has started to have a wee a few strides after I get on him. This happens every time. He has already been in the school for over ten minutes by then doing work in hand or being lunged so has had the opportunity to relieve himself beforehand. I am slightly worried it is not just him being quirky but a sign that he is uncomfortable and has a problem somewhere. He had osteopathic treatment and a Masterson session in he last few weeks and neither practitioner found anything apart from some tightness on his right side which I already knew about. I also removed a large bean a few weeks ago when he was still tranquillised after having his teeth rasped. Has anybody experienced this behaviour and did it prove significant?

Edited to say I am only 47kg so unlikely to worry a healthy cob when I get on.
 

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How old is he? Is there a possibility of Cushing's because weeing when ridden when he hadn't before was the first sign with mine
 

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How old is he? Is there a possibility of Cushing's because weeing when ridden when he hadn't before was the first sign with mine

He has just turned eight. He does not seem to wee a lot otherwise, just seems to be triggered by the rider on his back?
 

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Has it just become a habit? I have known geldings that will wee within seconds of getting into their box, irrespective of what time of day that is. I also knew one who always stopped for a wee when we got into the middle of herd of cattle that we regularly rode through - that was particularly disconcerting as my mare was scared of cows and would be attempting cartwheels as he casually took a long wee!
 

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My big lad has got into the habit of being tacked up, I take him to a grassy bit, and he pees before I get on.
Much handier than him wanting to stop once on board.

My old boy likes to pee after he's ridden. So if at a comp, I warm him up for 15 mins, then pop him back to the trailer, allow him to pee, then jump back on board.

Keeps them both much happier.
 

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My friends horse did this, was tested for everything and scoped as a precaution- grade 4 ulcers, treated and its stopped

Did the horse have any other ulcer related symptoms or was this the only clue? Woody is perfectly happy to be groomed, saddled and girthed up, does not buck or misbehave when ridden. He keeps a fairly steady weight and has been muscling up nicely with the work we have been doing. I must admit he is a cheeky very babyish 8 year old. His excitement boiled over this morning when he caught sight of the new foal opposite the school and he did a very showy slow rear while I was closing the gate, but that is Woody...He then took all of two minutes to come to his senses and remember his manners.
 

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A friend's cob did this when we went to group lessons. He was a bit lazy and it started (we assume) as an evasion - he'd stop about 5 or 6 times before he'd actually wee and just stand there watching the other horses around him, having a jolly old time - but then became a habit. He only did it in one particular indoor school. Have you tried him somewhere else? I assume he doesn't do it out hacking?
 

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My old pony used to stop to wee whenever he didn’t want to do something. Almost invariably every time I went into show ring and as a form of napping on certain rides. However that was 40 years ago and now I’d be looking more closely for an underlying reason. That’s not to say it didn’t start out with a reason and then morphed into a good way of avoiding work but again that points to them not feeling comfortable working in some way.
 

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Did the horse have any other ulcer related symptoms or was this the only clue? Woody is perfectly happy to be groomed, saddled and girthed up, does not buck or misbehave when ridden. He keeps a fairly steady weight and has been muscling up nicely with the work we have been doing. I must admit he is a cheeky very babyish 8 year old. His excitement boiled over this morning when he caught sight of the new foal opposite the school and he did a very showy slow rear while I was closing the gate, but that is Woody...He then took all of two minutes to come to his senses and remember his manners.
That was it, its a spooky so and so but it always has been. Never bucks, not girthy, never pulls faces at grooming or tacking up, no weight loss. It's not particularly expensive to scope although it's not very nice for them it might be worth doing
 

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A friend's cob did this when we went to group lessons. He was a bit lazy and it started (we assume) as an evasion - he'd stop about 5 or 6 times before he'd actually wee and just stand there watching the other horses around him, having a jolly old time - but then became a habit. He only did it in one particular indoor school. Have you tried him somewhere else? I assume he doesn't do it out hacking?

He only does it the once then he is ok and he has not done it ridden in a field. We are going to restart hacking next week, I had stopped as he was so bad with crab flies but he seems to have given up the rodeo act when he gets one now and I am armed with Tri-tec!
 

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That was it, its a spooky so and so but it always has been. Never bucks, not girthy, never pulls faces at grooming or tacking up, no weight loss. It's not particularly expensive to scope although it's not very nice for them it might be worth doing

Thanks, I will have a word with my vet.
 
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