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I also do agree you get more for your money going to Spain. BUT you do have to be careful as most agents have bad reputations and there are many horror stories! also vettings are rubbish in Spain and again many horror stories about that as well! you just have to have half a brain cell and NOT go with a vet the agent recommends ;-)

Also some are over priced just because they can do piaffe or something when the basics are not even there.
 
Sorry SN, I disagree with you re British breeders not advertising.

If you are interested in a certain breed of horse, it makes sense to contact the UK breed society, there are horses for sale on the BAPSH website together with a list of breeders and you can also contact the registrar or indeed anyone on the committee to see what horses are for sale. It would also make sense to attend the breed shows.

I think you would also be the first to admit that what you are looking for is very exact, must be quiet to ride and black, so to say that you cannot find anything in the UK may be true for you, but someone else who is not so set could certainly find something.

British PRE's are not 'calmer' than imports, have you had much experience of riding and handling them? The reason they are less complicated is that they do not have the, usually, bad training and there is no problem getting them acclimatised, but as with any horse, they are only as good as their handler or rider.

Too many people fall in love with a horse on a video from Spain and buy it without trying it, they then get it home to find they can't ride it. Happens ALL the time and the poor horse gets the blame, this sort of thing is really bad for the breed in general.
 
Yes I do agree SOME are advertised but a lot are not. This hasn't specifically affected me this time round as I'm now aware of them all and have contacted them BUT first time round I wasn't aware so went to usual avenues (like horse mart etc). So yes agree that's where people should go, but they don't!

Ah yes that would be true, I am looking for something more precise this time BUT there is still more choice in Spain whether my want list is smaller or larger. BTW I'm not really colour restricting, that's just what I would prefer, I'm not THAT mad :-D

Yes I have had lots of experience with British PRE's as the yard I'm at breeds them as a stud. Many friends also have them as well. ALL are easier! yes it is probably to do with all of that you list I'm sure....still makes them easier!

I also agree about people buying off video can't necessarily handle them when over here, which gives them a bad name. Unfortunately that likely comes from the agent persuading them they sell a lot from video (this happens a lot and I've experienced this with many!). However that's their fault. I personally would NEVER buy off video, crazy to me. I will even make a few trips to see the same horse as well.
 
I think I do agree with you SN, you don't see them on the commercial sites. Usually you see them on the breeders website or on BAPSH.

It's wort mentioning to the board however I don't get the impression that many breeders are happy to sell a PRE to just anyone. I may be wrong! Many sales seem to happen through recommendation to experienced people who perhaps have had experience with Spanish horses and know a bit about the line and type they want.

E.g. me, I know I want a baroque, carthusian horse and I got one with those lines. Plenty in Spain! It was a bonus that she was discovered not far from me - but I needed help to find her! yes, I bought her as a 3 month old as I probably couldn't afford her when she got older and was backed. There were older ones I could have had who were equally as beautiful but she stole my heart. That was my choice. I have others to ride so I can wait.

I guess everyone has different needs and wants and Spain is a bigger market.

It would be nice if our breeders would make more of a show of their stock as there are some absolute crackers at the moment albeit young still. Both baroque types and "warmblood" types. I'd like to think we supported our "local" breeders..... yet, how can we if we don't know what's in the country??
 
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I think I do agree with you SN, you don't see them on the commercial sites. Usually you see them on the breeders website or on BAPSH.

It's wort mentioning to the board however I don't get the impression that many breeders are happy to sell a PRE to just anyone. I may be wrong! Many sales seem to happen through recommendation to experienced people who perhaps have had experience with Spanish horses and know a bit about the line and type they want.

E.g. me, I know I want a baroque, carthusian horse and I got one with those lines. Plenty in Spain! It was a bonus that she was discovered not far from me - but I needed help to find her! yes, I bought her as a 3 month old as I probably couldn't afford her when she got older and was backed. There were older ones I could have had who were equally as beautiful but she stole my heart. That was my choice. I have others to ride so I can wait.

I guess everyone has different needs and wants and Spain is a bigger market.

It would be nice if our breeders would make more of a show of their stock as there are some absolute crackers at the moment albeit young still. Both baroque types and "warmblood" types. I'd like to think we supported our "local" breeders..... yet, how can we if we don't know what's in the country??
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Exactly :):)

I am no way saying we should not buy from the UK as it would be great to support them and I have absolutely been looking here too, but they have to accept if they do not advertise and people are new to the breed, they will simply loose out on sales to imported horses if they do not promote / advertise their stock better. Totally agree.

Oh and I have already told them my thoughts and yes many have said it is because they would prefer to sell by word of mouth. Which is fine. BUT they have to accept they will loose sales.

The majority of people look at normal avenue's for buying a horse and that is usually in the way of horse mart, horse and hound etc....in my opinion it does not matter HOW you come across any horse to view as the seller does not have to sell the horse if they are not happy with the potential buyer. Whether or not the potential buyer discovers the horse from an advert or word of mouth is irrelevant to me! you don't want to sell to that person, then you don't!!!!!

My horse is potentially looking for a sharer, however he is difficult as I have said before and he is not for the majority of people. I have had tons of calls (either from seeing my advert OR word of mouth) and none I have deemed suitable for him. Many have even offered me quite a bit of money for him, but I am being a good owner and I will not sell him as to me he is not sellable and he easily could revert back to how he was. Plus he is my baby and he has a forever home with me :) Anyway my point is, how they came about him is irrelevant.

There is defo a greater choice in Spain like you say. I can honestly say out of the very few in the UK for sale, only one has been of interest to me, as I am not looking for an 'alrounder' I want something for competition (dressage & showing).

Also like you say most of what is for sale in the UK is youngstock, so unless you are looking for a bubba, this again limits your choice.
 
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