Rodeo Photos; If You Don't Like Rodeos - Don't Look!

http://www.idausa.org/facts/rodeos.html

There are always 2 sides to everything & below is taken from the above link;

Because of the aggressive nature of rodeo events, animals commonly suffer serious injuries, such as torn ligaments, broken bones, fractured horns, internal bleeding, and even severed spinal cords or tracheas. Veterinarian and USDA meat inspector C. G. Haber has witnessed the devastating impact of rodeos on animals. According to Dr. Haber, "The rodeo folks send their animals to the packing houses where…I have seen cattle so extensively bruised that the only areas in which skin was attached [to the body] was the head, neck, legs and belly. I have seen animals with six to eight ribs broken from the spine and at times puncturing the lungs."
Sources:

1. David M. Brown, "Councilman's proposal could pull in rodeo shows," Pittsburgh Tribune Review, July 19, 2002.
2. "Choosing Champions," San Antonio Express-News, Feb. 6, 2000.
3. National Western Stock Show, Horse Show, and Rodeo. 2003. "PRCA Animal Welfare Rules" Available Online:
Another link
http://www.sharkonline.org/?P=0000000349
Born to Buck -- Or Beaten to Buck?
On April 27, 2003, investigator Peggy Koteen documented animal abuse at the Cal Poly rodeo in San Luis Obispo, California, which is sanctioned by the National Intercollegiate Rodeo Association (NIRA).

These video clips document just a small portion of the beating of a horse named Cinnabar. Contrary to rodeo propaganda that rodeo horses are "born to buck," Cinnebar does not buck. Three times Cinnebar refused to buck.

As a result, Cinnebar was repeatedly hit and kicked by rodeo thugs Monty David Schaack and Raymond Lewis. The clips shown here represent only a fraction of the abuse Cinnabar endured.
This clip shows the horse Cinnebar refusing to buck. In fact, Cinnebar refused to buck three consecutive times, in spite of being pushed, screamed at and hit in the face. Cinnebar clearly is not "Born to Buck."
After refusing to buck three times over, Cinnebar is beaten. In this clip he is repeatedly punched, slapped and has his ears yanked.
The beating of Cinnebar continues. He is repeatedly kicked in the face and the neck. Everyone at the rodeo can see what is going on, and no one stops the abuse. This is how rodeo people "love" animals

You cant expect a horse who is bucking & twisting in that manner not to put something out. Having said that the horses that perform well are worth a fortune so I dont doubt that they get well looked after. Just thought I would add another side to this as tye_bo seems to be taking a lot of stick for just asking simple questions. If we dont question anything, nothing gets changed.
http://www.bucktherodeo.com/
 
Well she didn't quite just ask a few simple questions - she outright said what she thought went on - I corrected her and said I have never in all the time I have been to rodeos seen what she was suggesting. Seeing things on numerous occasions in real life, compared to thinking what goes on are quite different.
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And you are absolutely correct about there being two sides to every story - that was my main reason for making this post!
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Thanks for your input Magic104. I daren't watch the video, I don't think I could stand to see it. The description is enough for me.

Tia - I have continuously said since my first post that I am curious, and I did ask simple questions? I am the first to admit I am no authority on this (hence me asking questions!!). Yes of course this was based on what I thought went on - both in my experience of what the rodeo I went to (all be it limited experience) and of what I have seen and read on rodeos. I am happy to stand corrected. Unfortunately what Magic104 has posted has confirmed my fears.
 
Hmm, that timing could be tricky as I may have 6 houseguests at that point - still, it would get them out of the house I suppose!!!!!!! I am unlikely to be around the beginning of august too, so that is out I am afraid, but will see what they think of rodeoing in September
 
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I am the first to admit I am no authority on this (hence me asking questions!!). Yes of course this was based on what I thought went on - both in my experience of what the rodeo I went to (all be it limited experience) and of what I have seen and read on rodeos. I am happy to stand corrected. Unfortunately what Magic104 has posted has confirmed my fears.

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With respect, the links Magic104 posted show only what that particular agency wanted it to show.

You can't expect an anti-rodeo/whatever to show anything in a good light, that would not make sense.

Tarring everyone with the same brush is a bit hasty. That is like saying that anybody who ever rides to hounds is a stuck up, blood thirsty, in bred snob! I haven't had the opportunity to get to a rodeo yet, I fully intend to, and I shall make up my own mind then.
 
No I understand what you are saying and I hope the Cinnebar story is an extreme example. I have to say though that the comment they make that (and I para phrase here from memory) "due to the aggressive nature the animals commonly suffer injuries" doesn't seem like a far-fetched claim.
 
No I'm sorry but you didn't. You continually TOLD me of the cowboys spurring the horses on - I made a few references to the fact that this was NOT my experiences of it....however you KEPT on saying it.

I reiterate, at no time during this rodeo, or any other rodeo I have attended have I ever seen a cowboy spur on a horse in the bronc riding.

At no time have I ever seen a horse with spur marks on it's side, let alone have gashes or wounds. None of them have any marks - and yes as I said, I see them VERY close up at the end of the rodeo.

Magic 104 : This tour has been going on for years - never have I seen mistreatment going on. I challenge you to find ANYTHING untoward going on in the Dodge Rodeo Tour - use whichever search engine you wish and if you come up with anything then I guarantee I will speak with the organiser of this rodeo.
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I didn't TELL you :-) ! One of my first questions was 'don't they buck because they are spurred'? You thought I meant in the chutes (I didn't and we cleared that up) but you didn't correct me and say that they weren't spurred or that the rodeos weren't unkind to the horses? You didn't say otherwise until page 4 where you said they are not spurred - I also kept saying it was a genuine question and I always fully admited I am no authority on the subject, I am genuinely curious.

As someone else said how can they not be spurred (even accidently for arguments sake) when they are doing all that bucking. Also as my quote on the post above "due to the aggressive nature the animals commonly suffer injuries" again I can completely see why this would be the case?

As for the calf roping and goat tying (whatever that is) someone who was for rodeos said that part was out of order (from memory) as in their opinion it was cruel?
 
The same animals tour with the rodeo all over the country, working most weekends over the summer. If the animlas were injured they would not be able to do this. The horses and bulls are worth a huge amount of money - this alone is enough for them to ensure they are well treated, it is a business venture at the end of the day. In addition, us folk in Canada aren't backwards enough to tolerate animal abuse. How many parents would take their children to see animals in poor condition, or ill, or injured, which they are more than well aware of being farmers themselves (the majority of rodeos are in serious farm country so it's not a city slicker activity, Mississauga perhaps excepted) Maybe once they would get away with it, but these venues on the whole are TINY towns, villages in a UK sense, and they certainly wouldn't be able to go back to teh same people year after year if their standards weren't high.
 
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One of my first questions was 'don't they buck because they are spurred'? You thought I meant in the chutes (I didn't and we cleared that up) but you didn't correct me and say that they weren't spurred or that the rodeos weren't unkind to the horses? You didn't say otherwise until page 4 where you said they are not spurred

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My quote from way back on Page 2 where I did answer your question:
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Hmm perhaps; I've never seen any of the cowboys spurring the horses when they were on them, or in the chute to be honest. It's never been the case at any of the many rodeos I have ever been to.

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You didn't appear to hear and continued to KEEP on saying that the horses WERE spurred on, to which I yet again said that "no that had not been my experience at any rodeos I have attended".

Interesting that not at any time were you ever concerned for the rider who was gored and broke his pelvis.
 
No I didn't see and I stand corrected!

I also didn't see you mention a rider who was injured but my thoughts on that are he goes into the rodeo knowing full well what the risks are, he has a choice as to whether or not he does it.

What about when I said "As someone else said how can they not be spurred (even accidently for arguments sake) when they are doing all that bucking. Also as my quote on the post above "due to the aggressive nature the animals commonly suffer injuries" again I can completely see why this would be the case?

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As for the calf roping and goat tying (whatever that is) someone who was for rodeos said that part was out of order (from memory) as in their opinion it was cruel?"

What are your thoughts on that out of interest?
 
Well I answered your question indirectly when someone else made comment about the spurs. Western spurs are rowled and blunt - it would be very difficult to gash a horse with them as they are not fixed. If it is not possible, in your opinion, for horses to NOT be spurred on, then why have I never seen any marks at all on any of the horses? I think the answer may be that these are professional rodeo riders and not you or I!
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The animals on this particular Tour are the same animals, week in week out. Most are seasoned bronc horses - they KNOW how to do it; in just the same way as a XC horse knows how to jump whopping fixed fences. If a horse knows how to do anything correctly then it shouldn't strain itself, although some probably do from time to time.

Calf roping - well once again, I DID make reference to this! It doesn't bother me so long as they do it in a professional manner. It's part and parcel of what goes on on large ranches here. A calf is expected to grow to adulthood and then for meat - it should fetch a minimum of $1,500 - no beef farmer I know would be willing to risk this sort of money for a 5 second run going wrong. If they do then they obviously have too much money and should give some to me.
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Goat tying - never heard of that. Must be something they do in Hicksville USA.....sorry Jade
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Goat tying is typically the female contestant or childs version of calf roping. Well not really as they ride up to a goat tied to a stake, slam ot down and then tie it as they would a calf.
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You see it alot in High school or "little britches" rodeos
 
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