gemgreen
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I've been reading up on the issues surrounding Rollkur over the last couple of weeks and wondered what peoples view, advantages/disadvantages are?
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Kenzo
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If you do a search, it will bring up other threads/replies etc on the subject.
coen
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It's quite a hot topic at the moment so should be a fair amount of info out there.
Personally I believe it is unnecessary and cruel, the level of hyper flexion put's a huge strain on the horses joint and hollows the back which cannot be comfortable and can lead to injuries.
The horse is not willing it is forced, it cannot even see where it's going properly at that angel. People claim that shows trust in it's rider which is ridiculous it shows a broken spirit with no option. A horse is a flight animal after all.
I think people can be so ungrateful, horses are so willing to cooperate with us why would you want to overstep the mark and compromise the animals well being.
Personally I believe it is unnecessary and cruel, the level of hyper flexion put's a huge strain on the horses joint and hollows the back which cannot be comfortable and can lead to injuries.
The horse is not willing it is forced, it cannot even see where it's going properly at that angel. People claim that shows trust in it's rider which is ridiculous it shows a broken spirit with no option. A horse is a flight animal after all.
I think people can be so ungrateful, horses are so willing to cooperate with us why would you want to overstep the mark and compromise the animals well being.
glitterbug
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I personally don't see a problem with it if used correctly by a rider who knows what the're doing, and if used for short periods to correct a problem. I don't think it causes the horse pain as I've known horses that put themselves in this position as an evasion of the contact. As a rider you should be able to control the position of the horses neck and ride in varying outlines depending on the work and training stage of the horse and taking its conformation into account. I think hollow necks and backs and riders with stiff backs bouncing around on them cause the horse more discomfort personally and you witness that all the time but noone shouts cruelty!!!
stencilface
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I think hollow necks and backs and riders with stiff backs bouncing around on them cause the horse more discomfort personally and you witness that all the time but noone shouts cruelty!!!
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The difference is that bad riding is often down to lack of skill/experience and is not intentional. Riding a horse in Rolkur is intentional
I think hollow necks and backs and riders with stiff backs bouncing around on them cause the horse more discomfort personally and you witness that all the time but noone shouts cruelty!!!
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The difference is that bad riding is often down to lack of skill/experience and is not intentional. Riding a horse in Rolkur is intentional
Prince33Sp4rkle
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and theres no proof that rollkur causes any of the same damages that overweight stiff riders trying to do sitting trot on a hollow stiff back does!!!!!
i warm one of my horses up deep, the other more low and round, never had one i felt required full blown rollkur so far.
some people i teach i teach to ride deep, some i dont, every horse is different.
i think this has become a bit of bandwagon..........
i warm one of my horses up deep, the other more low and round, never had one i felt required full blown rollkur so far.
some people i teach i teach to ride deep, some i dont, every horse is different.
i think this has become a bit of bandwagon..........
charlie76
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Nowt wrong with riding a horse deep and round, one of mine would have you on the deck when you first get on it you didn't. Big difference between pulling the horses head in and pushing the horse into a deep round outline however.
CreepyKikiKev
Active Member
not exactly rollkur but Id much sooner ride deep than get decked on sharp horse!
coen
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I appreciate that due to different confirmations the outline varies but there is a difference between deep and round and actually using rolkur.
Also I would like to know what 'problem' you suggest it corrects.
I don't think it matters how skilled a rider you are it is a totally unnatural position.
This has been a controversial subject for years and this is only my opinion but it certainly isn't pretty to watch a horse being ridden in rolkur.
Also I would like to know what 'problem' you suggest it corrects.
I don't think it matters how skilled a rider you are it is a totally unnatural position.
This has been a controversial subject for years and this is only my opinion but it certainly isn't pretty to watch a horse being ridden in rolkur.
SARA4H
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Will the FEI prohibit the unnaturally over-bent head and neck position, similar to that created by Rollkur and hyperflexion, when a horse is worked or exercised not only from the saddle but also from the ground and while in harness, e.g. long-reining and lunging with its many disguises?