Romainian rescues.

millikins said:
So how does a responsible adult who works but has reliable and consistent support so the dog is rarely left, actually adopt a U.K rescue?
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Private rehome. My westie came from an advert on preloved - she's not a great example of this method because she was in a pretty poor state, has terrible skin and dodgy hips, but she was bedraggled, angry and miserable, but only 8 months old so I took a punt. Her skin takes some management but she's a lovely dog (8yrs now). A couple of friends have rehomed some lovely dogs privately, health checked as pups and either owners circumstances have changed or the dog was just a bit too much for them.
 
Anyone know of the greyhound rescue near Peterborough? A yard acquaintance has just lost her dog and she thinks a grey is the way forward. I don’t know if rescues are re-homing currently, but she works like one day a week and her OH is retired.
 
I don't subscribe to the idea of 'why do we give foreign aid we should be spending it in this country' idea and I don't agree with it when it comes to animal adoption either. Charity is charity, a homeless dog is a homeless dog, regardless of location.

If an adopter has fallen in love with a dog abroad, has the means to look after them, is homechecked and approved, then I don't understand why people are so vehemently opposed, unless there is some breed snobbery or xenophobia at play.

Of course there will unsuccessful adoptions, as there.would be from UK charities, but the reputable international charities have a policy in which you would surrender the dog back to them and they would find a foster or new home themselves, the dog would not end up in UK kennels. I don't doubt there is a dark side and some agencies that break the law or act unethically, but to then say 'it's wrong' on a blanket level is just not right. The ones doing anything unethical or illegal should of course be stopped and prosecuted.
 
Nope, I did not. I would class that under unethical behaviour if a rescue adopted a dog to anyone, abroad or not, without doing thorough checks on the dog's health or medical issues, or deliberately hiding that information. May also be illegal, but I'm not totally sure on the law aspect.

My comment said that practice should of course not be allowed. Thanks for reading ?
 
Amymay said:
The trouble is QM, there are only a handful of reputable international charities - and many do end up in UK rescue as there is simply not the backup for them.
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Do you have any statistics to back up the assertion there are 'only a handful of reputable international charities'? I'd be interested to see.
 
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Nope, I did not. I would class that under unethical behaviour if a rescue adopted a dog to anyone, abroad or not, without doing thorough checks on the dog's health or medical issues, or deliberately hiding that information. May also be illegal, but I'm not totally sure on the law aspect.

My comment said that practice should of course not be allowed. Thanks for reading ?
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But the main point is that for Leish testing you can't tell.
 
i am another one who is against importing these dogs. if you look on dogs blog most of the dogs on there are foreign and quite often not even in this country. the money spent importing these dogs would be better spent by arranging neutering facilities and humane PTS for the old, infirm and crippled ones. i feel it is cruel to transport them for many hours to a different climate and a completely different type of life. they must be very bewildered. i have seen dogs who have no use of their back legs being bought here , dogs who are 15 years old and blind, surely this is not the right way to treat these dogs. when i want my next dog i will not home a foreign dog and i hope this trade is stopped when brexit is finally here.
 
Can anyone come up with more than a handful of reputable international charities that are bringing dogs to the UK that are not just glorified dog dealers? I’d be interested to hear...We should not be bringing street dogs to become British pets- that’s not rescue. Most of the ‘rescues’ grasp on exotic diseases is extremely biased towards ‘selling’ the dogs IME.
 
Ferry journeys are stressful. My dog drops a few kilos and he was born and raised and is used to living in a house, with people, and has travelled extensively in a car since he was tiny. Air travel even more so and I would never fly him, he just does not have the temperament for it. People don't seem to realise or acknowledge how stressful this can be, especially for a feral dog.
 
splashgirl45 said:
i am another one who is against importing these dogs. if you look on dogs blog most of the dogs on there are foreign and quite often not even in this country. the money spent importing these dogs would be better spent by arranging neutering facilities and humane PTS for the old, infirm and crippled ones. i feel it is cruel to transport them for many hours to a different climate and a completely different type of life. they must be very bewildered. i have seen dogs who have no use of their back legs being bought here , dogs who are 15 years old and blind, surely this is not the right way to treat these dogs. when i want my next dog i will not home a foreign dog and i hope this trade is stopped when brexit is finally here.
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The import of foreign rescues would be dramatically reduced if the UK charities were more open minded about who they allow to adopt. The replies to my previous post amount to "choose a breed, try a breed society or trawl Preloved"
 
Other than that it may become ill later and require expensive treatment or PTS, is there a problem with importing a dog with dormant undetectable leishmaniasis?

Can they directly infect other dogs? Do we have a fly like a sandfly in this country that can spread it?

Just asking out of interest.

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ycbm said:
Other than that it may become ill later and require expensive treatment or PTS, is there a problem with importing a dog with dormant undetectable leishmaniasis?

Can they directly infect other dogs? Do we have a fly like a sandfly in this country that can spread it?

Just asking out of interest.

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It can be spread to other dogs through direct biting. I cannot link to the actual article but it has been posted on here before.
 
ycbm said:
Other than that it may become ill later and require expensive treatment or PTS, is there a problem with importing a dog with dormant undetectable leishmaniasis?

Can they directly infect other dogs? Do we have a fly like a sandfly in this country that can spread it?

Just asking out of interest.

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Clodagh is right. Direct transmission is possible.

Dogs can be infected by other dogs in the absence of the vector (sandfly). There have been cases reported in Germany, Finland, New Caledonia in the Pacific and in the UK of direct transmission (non vector routes of infection). Here are the links:

https://parasitesandvectors.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13071-016-1551-0.
https://actavetscand.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13028-014-0084-9.
https://parasitesandvectors.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13071-016-1388-6
https://www.rvc.ac.uk/news-and-even...hmaniosis-transmission-between-dogs-in-the-uk
 
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millikins said:
The import of foreign rescues would be dramatically reduced if the UK charities were more open minded about who they allow to adopt. The replies to my previous post amount to "choose a breed, try a breed society or trawl Preloved"
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i dont think they would as the foreign rescues are very good at marketing and make it very easy (maybe too easy) to obtain a dog. they market lots of puppies and everyone loves a puppy. perhaps if people are working full time it is not a good idea to have a dog at home alone for many hours at a time. i love dogs but when i was at work i didnt have a dog that lived at home with me. i did have a dog that i paid for but she lived with my mum and i collected her in the evening took her to the yard (and walked her) every day and she stayed at home with my mum. at the weekends she came and stayed with me, in that way the dog wasnt left for lots of time alone and i had the joy of owning even though it was second hand.....if my mum wasnt a dog person and didnt want to have a dog then i would reluctantly have not had my own until i retired...we cant all have everything we want...
 
I have three foreign rescues, one is from Romania. All three have mild issues but all three would be fine as family dogs.

The Romanian took a long time to come out of his shell. He was completely shut down and didn't move for days. He is a pretty much normal, goofy dog now.
 
My Mum went through the process of rehoming locally, relatively recently and it was pretty simple, she just had to wait a while for the right dog to come along, where it suited both their needs, she was actively looking for a few months, I think people just need to be a bit more patient.
There were a few disappointments and some fell through, but that's life.
People also need to manage their expectations, if she hadn't had me there to direct her away from 8 month old working line females who'd been surrendered because they were too full on, to 6-8 year old showline/pet bred dogs who's owners had died or fallen on hard times or the dog was just unwanted, then we'd be in a different situation.
Not very sexy to take on an old black and gold dog with a boring history, but it was the better fit.
 
My first dog is the textbook example of why buying from Preloved can be a crap deal. Plenty of people lie about their situations and the dog's behaviour in order to palm them off. Ten years later I can reflect on it being the very best £100 I ever spent but some of that time was unbearably hard and literally life changing. Not a casual decision!
 
blackcob said:
My first dog is the textbook example of why buying from Preloved can be a crap deal. Plenty of people lie about their situations and the dog's behaviour in order to palm them off. Ten years later I can reflect on it being the very best £100 I ever spent but some of that time was unbearably hard and literally life changing. Not a casual decision!
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A crap deal from preloved or a Romanian rescue? I think I’ll take my chances on preloved?
 
i know this is a total generalisation which will possibly infuriate a lot of people, but getting a rescue is NEVER an easy option in my opinion? no they don’t all come with ‘hang ups’ and ‘issues’ as previous HHO members who are no longer here have insisted ? but they are a living, breathing conscious being with a mind of his/her own? Not a robot!!!

I’ve had a few now, and yes I mainly choose a breed which is easy (greyhounds) - I’ve also had a few which have been far from easy (lurchers) which have seriously tested my sanity!

Actually the latest greyhound did that as well.... he came from an appalling racing kennels, he ‘box walked’ incessantly (and still does at the drop of a hat), he was shut down to the point where he was in his own world the whole time, he was anxious and stressed, he attacked small dogs because he had no idea what they actually were (he had only ever seen greyhounds and an electric hare!), he had no idea how to be a dog at all ?

He has taken a year of love and patience and tolerance (and luckily only one serious fight ?) to become an absolute joy to own - I couldn’t ask for a more rewarding dog.

I’ve had it before with other rescues - for those of you who have been on the forum far too long like me, Talisker was a real challenge who came very very VERY good in the end ❤️ - but you have to give them time, understanding and patience wherever they are from
 
We’ve been incredibly lucky with our Romanian lass, we got her via a foster home so she’d had two weeks of good care before she came to us. We hadn’t intended on a rescue from Romania, we saw her on a Facebook group of rescues when she was already in the UK and fell in love with her.

No idea what her back story is, or how she ended up in the UK. But she’s an absolute gem, incredibly intelligent, biddable and loving. No idea what her mix of breeds is, I’m very tempted to get a DNA test, despite the limitations of them!
 

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