Rottweilers on the DDA

[Cobnut1]

Please crosspost to as many places as you can.




due to recent news articles about rottweilers they are now trying to
put rottweilers on the dangerous dogs list, news of the world have
started a petition to get them put on it, so i have set this one up
to stop them being put on it.

please please cross post this everywhere that u can forward this
email to all that you can, it doesnt matter whether someone has a
rottweiler or not, i simply fear that if this starts all larger
breeds will be added like gsd's mastiffs etc. i dont want the news
of the world to win, as i truthfully believe it is not down to the
breed just how the dog was brought up etc.

so please please help me by signing this?

it will only take 2 or 3 mins to complete and is worth a lifetime to
a rottweiler. i am fully prepered with support to go to downing
street if i have to!

so whos with me???????????????

http://www.gopetition.com/online/9748.html

 

[Cobnut1]

This was taken with permission from another forum, for this petition to work as many people as possible need to sign it.

Thanks for reading. x

 

[Onyxia]

Signed and posted on a couple of other forums.

What a great country this is when the acts of three dogs can condem a whole breed- nation of animal lovers indeed

 

[PiebaldHorse]

There is a rottweiler near me, and its the sweetest thing you will ever meet, children can sit on its back and it wouldnt do a thing.

Some work mates said that at the end of the day its an animal with emotions etc the same as us. And just like horses they can be unpredictable.

However I agree, with the proper training etc when they are young, then it could all be prevented.

It should be law that us dog owners have to go get a license (like driving a car lol) before we are allowed to purchase a dog.

 

[GinaB]

Rottweilers do not deserve to be on the DDA along with many others. The ignorance regarding breeds like this astounds me.

 

[TrecPeter]

Good initiative - I've signed it.
Although we're not Rottweiler onwers, I can see the same mis-guided over-reaction in Switzerland happening. There seems to be a general mis-trust in dogs in Europe (Germany rather less) and humans welcome them less and less in their company. A pity, because there's much to learn from other animals on this planet.

 

[claire1976]

I've signed. As the owner and a Doberman who idolises my 4 year old this act is a farce. My friend has a Rottie who has been to all the KC classes and is a soft as a marshmallow. She doesn't even bark when someone comes to the door!
Blame the owners not the dogs. Attacks by dogs are due to neglect by the owners to take proper measures to train their dogs. I suggest the Governent bring back dog licensing with a condition that the dog must pass the KC good dog citizen exam before a license is granted.
Banning Rotties and other breeds is absurd. Tackle the owners of status breeds and don't penalise the dog for being misguided by irresponsible owners.

 

[Cobnut1]

Thank You everyone.....

 

[Oneofthepack]

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I suggest the Governent bring back dog licensing with a condition that the dog must pass the KC good dog citizen exam before a license is granted.

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............instead why don't we make potential dog owners pass a good citizenship exam before they get a dog! Even a good dog can turn bad in the wrong hands.

 

[Onyxia]

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I suggest the Governent bring back dog licensing with a condition that the dog must pass the KC good dog citizen exam before a license is granted.

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............instead why don't we make potential dog owners pass a good citizenship exam before they get a dog! Even a good dog can turn bad in the wrong hands.

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It would make sure that anyone buying a dog had a good knowledge of how to care for and train it- and hopefully have a large section on poo picking(personal bugbear, cant stand owners who let their dogs sh1t everywhere!)!

TBH, I would like to see some sort of competency test taken before buying any animal, plenty that are hurt/maltreated because the owner doesnt understand what it needs.

 

[milor]

trouble is that only the 'good' owners would bother getting a license or passing any kind of competency test ! - it certainly would not solve the problem of poor breeding - if people wre more selective of who they bought their pups from in the first place then many of these badly socialised/reared/bred dogs would not exist - people put more effort into choosing their new sofa than in choosing a new dog !

 

[Doreys_Mum]

If they add Rotties, when will they add poodles?

All dogs are dangerous in the wrong hands. They should just ban chavs from owning them.

 

[Onyxia]

[/ QUOTE ] people put more effort into choosing their new sofa than in choosing a new dog !

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Sadlt true, sure we all know at least one person who chose their breeder because they were the cheapest in a free ads paper.

 

[Iestyn]

I'm sorry, but I think that if they are put on the Dangerous Dogs list then it may acually ensure that ONLY responsible owners can keep Rottweilers - surely this would be a good thing for the breed and for those responsible owners out there?

I am sorry, but Rottweilers were responsible for the death of a young child and in my opinion you cannot compare that to the life of a dog - depsite being a dog lover and owner myself. Maybe people should stop and think before they sign this petition - maybe you'd be doing the breed a favour by allowing them to be on the register?

 

[Cobnut1]

If these dogs or any other innocent dogs/breeds are put on the register, how many of them are going to be destroyed way too easily?

the two that mauled the child, the question has to be...where were the kids parents? why was the kid on it's own? why werent the dogs supervised? It Isn't The Dogs Fault, but it's easy to blame them isn't it?

Rottweilers are not generally dangerous, and all dogs are competent of violent behaviour.... American Pit Bulls are on the register because they are bred to fight, they have a gene that makes them see red when faced to another dog.... that and plus being encouraged by "responsible" owners....

 

[Cobnut1]

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I'm sorry, but I think that if they are put on the Dangerous Dogs list then it may actually ensure that ONLY responsible owners can keep Rottweilers - surely this would be a good thing for the breed and for those responsible owners out there?

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So you're basically saying that there isn't a responsible owner out there..... ?

Beacuse you can't prove that anybody on here (for instance) is a resposible owner, then you are condemming them to being an unresponsible owner beacuse they don't want the Rottie's on the DDA?

My niece was attacked by a cocker spaniel, and ripped her lip apart...she still has the scar.... maybe they should be put on the list, and only owned by responsible owners?

 

[Iestyn]

There's no need to be facetious. Stories about Rottweilers attacking people are more common than Cocker Spaniels attacking people. Why do people keep them as guard dogs? I do relief milking for a local farm and they have a Rottweiler - I remember when I first went there I wouldn't get out of the car until I knew she was safe - why did I have that pre-conception? Beacuse I knew the breed is more capable of attacking than some other breeds of dogs. She is in fact the soppiest thing I know, but not with strangers. When I'm milking she will stand at the dairy door and NOBODY is allowed past.

What I mean by what I said (if you stopped to read before jumping down my throat) is that if the breed was put on the register, then it may ensure that ONLY responsible people who have experience with the breed or similar large dogs may be able to own one. You go on about the dogs in question being owned by irresponsible people - maybe if they had been on the register then the people in question may not have been in a position to have owned the dogs and the tragic accident would not have happened.

At the end of a day a child was killed and no amount of campaigning will bring her back. A week or so later another child was mauled - by a dog of the same breed. How often are children and adults attacked by a rottweiler and we don't hear about it? Probably on a daily basis all over the country - this story came to the news because of the fact it was a death and even more so a baby - it had a "tug on the heart strings" newsworthy effect which the media know will sell newspapers - tragic that it is. The second story probably would never have made headlines, or even the regional news, if the first accident hadn't happened so close to it.

I will stick by what I said, I'm entitled to an opinion as much as you are - and I'll say it again - maybe it would do the breed and it's reputation a favour.

 

[clipertyplop]

ive had the pleasure of owning several rottweillers pets and gaurd dogs. pet ones i have pictures of my very young daughter asleep in the dogs basket along with the dog, once when i was living alone in a caravan with my young daughter we were broken in to and our only means of power stolen (generator) police couldnt do a thing, i sorted it by looking in the paper for unwanted rottie dog, when i collected him he was in a small flat owned by some scally who aslo had a bitch and a litter of pups i went in the flat and the dog who must have been at least 12stone jumped up and knocked me flat boy oh boy did he make a good gaurd but a soffty at hart so to say its the owners not the dogs...... poodles bite but would you admit to it

 

[Cobnut1]

Rottwielers were never bred to be guard dogs. They originate from Germany and were bred to pull the little meat wagons which butchers used to deliver the meat packages to clients doors.

People like to use them as guard dogs, because they are big and chunky dogs. But your true gaurd dog is a Dobermann.

any dog is capable of biting, mauling.... I'd say the worst offenders are the wee ones...ankle biters, JRT's Yorkies....etc... but that's just my opinion

 

[weevil]

Yes, other dogs may bite but that's not really the point. I know many people say they have rotties and they are brilliant pets and really soppy etc. But a woman I worked with used to keep rottweilers as pets, she had had them for years and said she always thought the same. Until one day she was walking one of them and it just turned and attacked her. The dog was hanging off her arm and wouldn't let go, even when someone tried to help her by hitting it with a spade. She had to have 9 operations on her arm and still only has limited movement.
I know other dogs can and do bite and attack people but a large powerfull dog like a rottweiler can cause so much more damage then a JRT etc.

 

[severnmiles]

Not to do with rotties but for future reference to anyone who does have a dog hanging off of their arm, hitting it won't work or will take longer, throw water over its head. Surprising how many people don't know that.

Re. Rotties, where do you draw the line? Any animal whether its a dog/horse/pigs/even sheep can be dangerous to a certain extent (yes I've known someone break bones after a ewe knocked them flying). What dog is next for the DDA?

 

[Cobnut1]

Lets just be done with it and put them all on! Even Labradoodles!

anyone ever seen a Labradoodle? I have...dead cute!!

 

[severnmiles]

I think they're ugly

 

[Molineux]

I have just signed it too.
I have a Rotti and no way should they be put on the D Dog Act.

If you bring dogs up to be a gaurd dog (No matter what they are) Then they will be one!

 

[severnmiles]

Never a more true word spoken Mol!

If you want, any dog will guard no matter what the breed is, and as for people saying a JRT couldn't cause the damage a rottie could well thats rubbish, JRT's are perfectly capable of mauling and killing a child!

 

[Cobnut1]

JRT's probably more so, as they are used for flushing rabbits out....

 

[milor]

"I'm sorry, but I think that if they are put on the Dangerous Dogs list then it may acually ensure that ONLY responsible owners can keep Rottweilers "




..... ummm - in fact it would be illegal to own or breed ANY breed placed on the DDA ( as it is with Pit Bulls, Tosa's, Dogo Argentina's etc at the moment) - this would mean that the good breeders would no longer be able to continue breeding the corrrect even tempered dogs that are truly representative of this breed - the breeding of Rotties would be driven underground and only the cowboy breeders would continue - yes numbers would fall drastically but this would only push the problem onto a diffrent breed - unfortunately there will always be those idiots who want a 'hard ' breed ( to cover their own inadaquacies many times !) and they will simply transfer their irrreponsible ownership to another large breed - Akita's GSD .....?????

 

[severnmiles]

Well just because they kill rabbits doesn't mean they'd be dangerous, take a pack of hounds as an example. They hunt and kill foxes (or did) but they don't attack people.

 

[Iestyn]

Sorry, didn't realise the implications of it in that sense - I just thought ownership would be more regulated.