RSPCA Animal Frontline (again)

If you looked closely you would see it wasnt just the rspca trying to catch the ponies, there was veterinary staff involved aswell.
 
flaxen said:
If you looked closely you would see it wasnt just the rspca trying to catch the ponies, there was veterinary staff involved aswell.
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Yes I thought that I couldnt read who it was on their tops? What was amazing the black horse did try to take itself back to its field gate. I am wondering why the RSPCA dont work with the horse charities and hand over the calls to them? Anyone know? I am going to ask the RSPCA why they dont do this and will report back. I quite like the look of those two horses. Seem nice types and have obviously been handled.
 
flaxen said:
If you looked closely you would see it wasnt just the rspca trying to catch the ponies, there was veterinary staff involved aswell.
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It's amazing how many vets have very little idea of good sense and handling skills when it comes to horses. Did anyone notice the person nearly getting her head kicked off in the 'Rolph's Animal Clinic' colic op on the black mare. The mare had been sedated and cast, and the girl was on the floor trying to hold onto a rear leg.

Very few of the 'professionals' seem to use safe methods of restraint and handling these days. I think they rely too much on sedation.

The people in the clip just didn't even consider that if they'd kept hold of the coloured horse, and remained calm and quiet, that the black horse would have returned to its pal and could have been got back into the field. They set off after it, cut its return route off, and fixated on catching it.

Horses are super perceptive. Their survival depends on their ability to spot an opportunity to escape and to exploit it instantly. Once that horse was out of the field it was odds on that it would evade capture.
 
AengusOg said:
It's amazing how many vets have very little idea of good sense and handling skills when it comes to horses. Did anyone notice the person nearly getting her head kicked off in the 'Rolph's Animal Clinic' colic op on the black mare. The mare had been sedated and cast, and the girl was on the floor trying to hold onto a rear leg.
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I'd have thought that vets and veterinary nurses would have been be taught that the sedation produced by many drugs is illusory when it comes to kicking (in particular) - and, even if the kick isn't full force, it can still do a lot of damage!

(ETA: I remember hearing someone from one of the drug companies giving a talk about Dormosedan which was relatively new at the time, and saying that even though the horse looks well sedated they were still have full kicking capability - devoted a whole slide to that message!)
 
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I know who they are but am not naming them publicly, pm me if you want to know. They are equine vets with full equine surgical facilities and I was shocked at how things were done, they never handled horses like that when I was around them but looking at the staff they have now only a few are left that I know.

It is well know that in equine vets/ nurses that sedated horses are still capable of kicking out and you still need to keep your wits about you, we had a horse anaesthetised on the table for a stifle arthroscopy ( horse in dorsal recumbancy ) and as the surgeon walked round behind it to close knockdown box doors it lashed out and kicked her from one end of theatre to the other, luckily she was ok.
 
Just astonishing .

I think most people bash the RSPCA ( and I include myself here ) as they claim they are the Oracle in all matters and what they say and do is the way things should be done . Years ago I saw a young Inspector ( early twenties ) with a young horse . I can't remember why she had anything to do with it but I will always remember her saying that young horses should always be kept in boxes as they were growing and it was bad for their legs walking around the field ! According to her they should be lunged for 5 mins everyday . The horse was four . Made me cringe as I thought of all the general public thinking that was the right thing to do . What they say and do never ceases to amaze me . I realise they can't be experts in everthing but they should get themselves access to experts in situations like this . Rescuing an animal is great but putting the GP at risk in the process is not right .
 
^ I can see how she came to her reasons. Think she's confusing a horse with a big dog, as you don't want large breed puppies running around too much. But she really should be able to tell the difference between a dog and a horse. :eek:

Where is the RSPCA fan club anyway? Surprised they've not shown up yet.
 
Watched this, bright Idea take horse out of field on to road edge and try to catch from there, poor chap holding on for dear life from the head collar that was hurting poor horse, horse and others could of been hurt or worse and I wont even go into property damage. They should of taken a breather and thought the situation out.
 
Being devils advocate here, but the person who suggests 'letting the horse out' is not in RSPCA uniform, infact only the one person is that I could see? So who's to say the RSPCA inspector didn't seek experienced help and it's their method that is dubious???

What I will say from reading these forums is that horse folk to horse folk can't agree so how people expect the RSPCA to please them I don't know!!! You just have to read the barefoot versus shoeing threads or the natural horsemanship versus the traditional!!!! Everyone seems to be an expert yet everyone argues that the other is wrong and that's just on a forum!!!!
 
If the headcollar is digging into it's head no wonder it tried to run when they had hold of it, poor thing must have being in so much pain!!
And to let it out.. Idiots. :rolleyes:

Actually the more I watch this the more i'm wondering if they know anything. Even to me, a complete novice, I can see that horse is in pain and terrified yet they're trying to grab hold of the headcollar that's embedded in it's skin and pulling on it. Oh my God, think I may have to switch this off.
 
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I saw this and couldn't believe how dangerous the situation was allowed to become. Also odd no end of programme update on the black horse, a worry as the RSPCA are over fond of the needle:confused:
 
What struck me about it all was the black pony was so nice about it all, he was just frightened.
The liberties they took with him without getting kicked had me cringing.

I dread to think what they would do with a truly feral pony.
 
Aarrghimpossiblepony said:
What struck me about it all was the black pony was so nice about it all, he was just frightened.
The liberties they took with him without getting kicked had me cringing.

I dread to think what they would do with a truly feral pony.
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'Let him out and catch him when he's out of the field'
Genius. :rolleyes:
 
There are two films of the same rescue of highland ponies in Dallas Scotland one taken for that Animals frontline done by/for the RSPCA the other filmed by/for the WHW
The contrast in the two films is amazing the RSPCA film sensationalises and dramatizes it with very emotive language saay how the youngsters are at risk of killing each other and are going down in the race they built and being trampled. Hitting them over the head because they were rearing and justifying that as they may kill each other if left. One colt cryptorchid so was PTS but that was a big deal

The WHW film was of a calm trouble free job horses pushed through the race boys separated from girls those that weree able to be cut were sedated and done no trouble the one that wasnt they explained it was in its best interest to be PTS and that was the only comment made about it

Same job two differing angles Two totally different representations
 
"Oh dear!" Indeed. :eek:

"You've got to use the [ingrown] headcollar to catch them." Well, no - you don't!
 
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