RSPCA lead enquiry into Appleby horse drowning

yep - why is it that this doesn't fill me with joy

now if the headline was ILPH leads investigation................I'd be a LOT happier

but of course, now the press has been involved and it's made it to the pages of the Daily Mirror then the RSPCA of course can view this a publicity opportunity.....

the Police are responsible for identifying the person involved, with help from the public who were there.

Just WHAT is the RSPCA actually 'leading' as if there is a crime under the new Animal Welfare Bill then the CPS and Police can make a prosecution without needing the RSPCA in any way at all.
 
We were talking about it today and from what I read the other Horses owners chased after the man when he ran off, I kind of think it will be sorted behind closed doors within there group before the police or RSPCA find him.
 
The RSPCA have not found the man and the travelling frat have apparently not been helpful...................

It was on 6 o'clock nws on Radio 1 even!

I think it is an absolute disgrace that in this day in age it is acceptable to force any animal into a river as part of showing it off to sell it, how can anyone can advocate that this is acceptable, even more unacceptable is that susposed welfare organisations watch on, how and why to the organisers allow this to happen? Every year there is some fatal accident...of a horse not a pikey!

It makes me feel sick how this horse died i hope it is a better place and it was all over before it knew what was happening. RIP beautiful horse.
 
I'm sure that another horse drowned a couple of years ago at this bloody so called 'fair' and absolutely nothing was done then. What p1sses me off are those who defend this fair and it's 'traditions' - I wish they would take their blinkers off, for god's sake!
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The RSPCA have very limited legal powers & rely on the Police to use their powers to assist them to do their job. It is all very fine to attack the RSPCA's actions or non action by those who were on site but I assure you it can be extremely dangerous to try & confront members of the travelling community, especially when they outnumber you several hundred to one. Other members of that community, may not condone what has happened, but it is highly unlikely that they will assist in any way to identify or give the offender up. I speak from experience.
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Jolly good.
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I take it that it roughly translates as lets spend lots of public donations on being seen to be doing something after the event, even though we were present when it happened...

What a joke.
 
That doesn't fill me with any confidence, they stood watching lambs drown in a sea of mud during foot and mouth....
The travellers will close ranks, though his pic must be available to Police.
I bet he was whisked away to Ireland within hours. (nothing against there, I adore the place, but good place to hide)
 
May i suggest that the t.v. programme Crime Watch is contacted and asked to feature it. I am sure that someone will be able to provide the authorities with the current address of the person(s) concerned so that they can be inteviewed by the police.
 
You're right - the travellers will close ranks. As for being "whisked away to ireland" - who do you think were the people chasing the guy and his friends - as he ran for his life?
 
Don't mean to sound rude but I don't think of Irish gypsies as stinking pikies. There are good ones and bad ones in every nation and every culture.
I cannot generalise about the people and would rather individuals be singled out.
Although english myself both my immediate families ( ie parents and grandparents) are Irish blood and I do liken myself and my nature more to the Irish people than English.
I don't know if there is gypsy blood in my family tree but I would hazard a guess there may be simply by my nature and the fact that I don't like being tied down to one place.
Because of my heritage and also the fact that I happen to like Irish people and Irish gypsies I do take offence at the people being targetted and generalised like I have seen on here.
I know everyone is entitled to their opinions and beliefs but not everyone is the same. Therefore not every Ire gypsy is the same.
Even if this individual who drowned the horse was an Irish gypsy it is not fair to tarnish the whole community with the actions of one ( or several) person(people).
I would not condone any closing of ranks though as this person should be punished for what they did.
It was no accident and the horse did suffer a terrible death and this person needs to be made to fully understand his actions !
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I think you should withdraw that incredibly racist statement! There are as many honest 'travellers' as there are many honest 'scaldy'. You obviously know nothing about these people and their traditions, so please, dont make sweeping generalisations. I seriously dislike a female who is from Bedford, she is a tart, a liar, a pisshead and made a lot of trouble for me and my oh-should I hate all from Bedford? What a horrible attitude you have
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The police are useless and so are the RSPCA, always act when its too late.

And as for stinking pikeys, dont get me started!!
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I would bet my savings that the Gypsy community wil deal with this man in a way that he would wish the police had gotten hold of him.
 
Spot on......the RSPCA will normally only get involved if its high profile(we can make ourselves look good) and rake in the donations over this one....if we bother ourselves to actually do summit.
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Im not just bad mouthing either I work in the animal care industry and have first hand experience....of which I wont divulge as pretty damn annoying
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I hope someone catches the nasty b******s though
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My daughter and I love our horses more than almost anything - they are pampered and fretted over: we love them unconditionally. HOWEVER.....we also love point-to-pointing (two of our horses are ex-point-to-pointers, one quite successful) and our love of point-to-pointing has led us to witness the demise of many a brave horse on the race course.........we also have a "pikey" friend (who was going to Appleby - haven't spoken to him since his return) who loves his horses so much that he won't sell his horses at sales as he likes to know where they are going (we bought one off of him a week or so ago). What I'm trying to say is....okay , a horse died at Appleby...what about all the horses who die on the point-to-point tracks????????? And I speak as a hunt supporter/point-to-point enthusiast (and who has a "pikey" friend). DON'T JUDGE!!!
 
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The police are useless and so are the RSPCA, always act when its too late.

And as for stinking pikeys, dont get me started!!
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I would bet my savings that the Gypsy community wil deal with this man in a way that he would wish the police had gotten hold of him.

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absolutely correct. we won't hand him over - but he'll wish we did.
 
I am not Judging I am purely stating that the Gypsy community will deal with this man in a way the police cannot.

(regarding the Pikey statement I was Quoting a previous poster)
 
I quite agree; the gypsy community will deal out its own punishment! A local "oik" was recently arrested on suspicion of murdering a young traveller (yes, and I live in a tiny, rural hamlet.......it's all a bit like "Midsommer Murders"!!) and his family had to have 24 hour police protection from the travelling community! He was subsequently found guilty and sentenced to life imprisonment - where he'll be a lot safer than if he'd been acquitted and freed!!
 
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Oh good, the RSPCA are involved.Will never be caught by the police with them helping!
Thank God the travelers will deal with him (if they have not got him allready).

Re the stinking pikeys thing, like any culture there are good and bad.My family is Irish and have always devided these people into two groups, the travelers who are lovely people with a wonderfull culture to be admired and the tinkers who are about as usefull as English CHAVs.
Dont think calling this guy a tinker/pikey is too far off the mark, prats like him give REAL travelers a bad name they definatly dont deserve.
 
well said anima (a stinking pikey ) first thing a traveller is not a pikey thats the likes of certain people in our culture,have you heard yourselfs
 
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