RSPCA putting down dogs with rescue places to go to...

Oneofthepack said:
Sorry to 'preach' but reading your original post you say you watched your aunt beat a horse until it collapsed, repeatedly hit a horse in the stomach with spurs wrapped round her fist, saw on a horses mouth until it bled and punch a horse in the face, so by that I assumed you did nothing. If my aunt had done anything like that she surely wouldn't have done it again in my presence!

Why is that the RSPCA's fault? Shouldn't we all take responsability to act on the cruelty we see? If you know a social worker beats her kid and you do nothing is it social services fault when the kid dies?
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"watched" is probably the wrong word to use. When all of this was happening, I was only very young. Things came to a head when my Auntie threatened to kick my pony in the guts! They also got violent too!

I haven't spoken to her in over 10 years, non of my family have!

My Auntie ( and I really don't like calling her that ) keeps her horses in good condition and in lovely stables etc and so from the outside things appear fine! Anyone who used to show jump around the 70/80's will probably know of her. She is also widely known for her Cruelty on the circuit. We did all we could but unfortunately it wasn't enough.

On another note. I once called the RSPCA out to a horse being kept in a garden shed in a 40ft garden! It was never turned out, just put in a trap every now and then to go up and down the street. RSPCA went out to investigate and later called me to confirm that the horse was being kept in the shed but as it was in good condition and had water they were satisfied. Despite the fact this horse never saw daylight or had enough exercise etc.
 
Smartie, I can so identify with your last paragraph. When I was in my early teens (40 odd years ago:eek:), there was a pony kept in a garden shed near us, it was little more than a yearling and was ridden regularly, sometimes it was "turned out" in the garden which was about 20ft x 10ft. My mother reported it to the RSPCA who visited and said that as the pony had food and water there was nothing they could do. My mum pointed out that it was too young to be ridden and they basically just shrugged.
 
MurphysMinder said:
Smartie, I can so identify with your last paragraph. When I was in my early teens (40 odd years ago:eek:), there was a pony kept in a garden shed near us, it was little more than a yearling and was ridden regularly, sometimes it was "turned out" in the garden which was about 20ft x 10ft. My mother reported it to the RSPCA who visited and said that as the pony had food and water there was nothing they could do. My mum pointed out that it was too young to be ridden and they basically just shrugged.
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Hey MM!

It's just so sad that we call these people to help and more often than not, they let us down. :mad:

There is more to Heath and wellbeing than just food and water!
 
MurphysMinder said:
Smartie, I can so identify with your last paragraph. When I was in my early teens (40 odd years ago:eek:), there was a pony kept in a garden shed near us, it was little more than a yearling and was ridden regularly, sometimes it was "turned out" in the garden which was about 20ft x 10ft. My mother reported it to the RSPCA who visited and said that as the pony had food and water there was nothing they could do. My mum pointed out that it was too young to be ridden and they basically just shrugged.
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both stories above, the rspca would be powerless to stop. Otherwise you can go to any race yard and do the same for all the race horses that spend 23 1/2 hrs of every 24 hrs in a stable. Or the kings troop for the same with their horses.... Again regarding the pony being too young to ride, though not adviseable it is not illegal, otherwise you can shut the race industry down straight away! Though the rspca can advise turnout and a more natural environment, they cannot enforce such, the good thing is that both of you state that an officer did attend and get back to you. Regarding smartie's aunt, again have the rspca actually been made aware of these allogations? But even so unless there is evidence it is your word against theirs unfortunately.
 
competitiondiva said:
both stories above, the rspca would be powerless to stop. Otherwise you can go to any race yard and do the same for all the race horses that spend 23 1/2 hrs of every 24 hrs in a stable. Or the kings troop for the same with their horses.... Again regarding the pony being too young to ride, though not adviseable it is not illegal, otherwise you can shut the race industry down straight away! Though the rspca can advise turnout and a more natural environment, they cannot enforce such, the good thing is that both of you state that an officer did attend and get back to you. Regarding smartie's aunt, again have the rspca actually been made aware of these allogations? But even so unless there is evidence it is your word against theirs unfortunately.
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Which is my point CD. Although I never sat back and just watched it happen, it doesn't matter which charity gets involved. Unless they witness such cruel acts, there is nothing they can do. However, regarding my Aunties employment with them, I was trying to make a point that anyone can get involved with the RSPCA and I would have thought, certain checks would have been done beforehand? Perhaps my view of the RSPCA is blinkered because of my dealings with them. :(
 
Sorry Smartie, didn't realise the stuff with your delightful sounding aunt was such a long time ago. She must have some sort of mental problem to work for the RSPCA and behave like that surely?

It seems everyone has such bad tales to tell about the RSPCA but I've had nothing like that at all. All 6 calls I've made to them in total have all been dealt with properly, reported back to me and have been appreciated. Why my experiences should be so different I don't know and while I disagree with some of their decisions, like spending £3million of our charitable donations on a new office complex some years ago (which was when I stopped donating!) basically they are all we have so we should use and encourage them and if they get it wrong then that's bad but when they get it right an animal stops suffering and people get punished.
 
My daughter comes home from work this evening and said she had a very distressing day at work, they had found a fox on work property which looked lik it had been hit by a car and was badly injured. They rung the RSPCA who responded really quickly and put the fox down.

I applaud the RSPCA for this and hope they continue to respond quickly to calls for help and this is not a one off.
 
Oneofthepack said:
Sorry Smartie, didn't realise the stuff with your delightful sounding aunt was such a long time ago. She must have some sort of mental problem to work for the RSPCA and behave like that surely?

It seems everyone has such bad tales to tell about the RSPCA but I've had nothing like that at all. All 6 calls I've made to them in total have all been dealt with properly, reported back to me and have been appreciated. Why my experiences should be so different I don't know and while I disagree with some of their decisions, like spending £3million of our charitable donations on a new office complex some years ago (which was when I stopped donating!) basically they are all we have so we should use and encourage them and if they get it wrong then that's bad but when they get it right an animal stops suffering and people get punished.
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No probs ;). I wasn't very clear in my original post but didn't really want to go into it all. I'm just glad I live miles away from her now. She is evil in it's purest form and I am sure that one day she will get what she deserves.
 
Oneofthepack said:
I disagree with some of their decisions, like spending £3million of our charitable donations on a new office complex some years ago (which was when I stopped donating!) basically they are all we have so we should use and encourage them and if they get it wrong then that's bad but when they get it right an animal stops suffering and people get punished.
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I just wanted to let you know that at the time the new office complex was to be built (this was pre 9/11) they had been told I believe by the charity commission that they were holding too much in reserves (a charity can only hold 3 months running costs in the bank I believe) at that time they had outgrown their current Headquarters and needed to move, so decided rightly or wrongly to spend the excess there. I agree the amount spent seemed excessive AND I could think of other ways of spending it, but I can also see that in order to build a building big enough to house 100's (possibly 1000's?) of staff you are going to need a big building, and one that is suitable as a focal point for a big organisation who is often in the press.

But this was over 10 years ago, they are no longer in the same financial position that they were, (aren't we all!!??)

I just wanted to raise this point as there seem to be alot of people on here that have mentioned this about the headquarters building.
 
I didn't know that but still think it could have been done cheaper and more spent on maybe a large plot of land for more rescue places or 10 more inspectors or a massive education programme.

Lots have people have bad tales to tell but what the hell would we do without them! What happens to strays or just dogs in general abroad doesn't bear thinking about :(
 
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