RSPCA SHAME ON YOU

harveysmom said:
I think you are getting me cofused with someone else, how can i accuse the RSPCA of being heavy handed they did nothing to help this shetland pony. I mearly mentioned how statistics can be manipulated so 98% success could be made to sound impressive.
I think this post has moved so fast it may be a good idea for you to read my original post to see where im coming from
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I'm sorry I can't do multi quote on this, the second part of my reply re heavy handedness was in response to lots of replies I've read on here, not aimed at you, sorry for the confusion.
 
Goldenstar said:
I DO NOT think the RSPCA need to be anyway involved in this some where along the way we have to drop this ridiculous idea the the RSPCA have be involved in everything to do with animals they are a charity nothing more.
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exactly, but the replies infer that people think they ARE and should be responsible for every stray.
 
competitiondiva said:
and stray dogs are the responsibility of the local council.....
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I am not saying it should be the responsibility of the RSPCA.
I am saying there should be facilities to store stray horses in every county.
And if they are not claimed after seven days, then they should be slaughtered and sent to longleat.
Any real owner will find a missing horse in hours if its chipped and they know where to look (namely the "horse pound").
In fact it would lessen the burden on ALL charities if this was the case!
 
joeanne said:
I am not saying it should be the responsibility of the RSPCA.
I am saying there should be facilities to store stray horses in every county.
And if they are not claimed after seven days, then they should be slaughtered and sent to longleat.
Any real owner will find a missing horse in hours if its chipped and they know where to look (namely the "horse pound").
In fact it would lessen the burden on ALL charities if this was the case!
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no arguement here....!!! x
 
If the RSCPA were better (and it might be regional but it doesnt seem that way on the opinions on here) then I would happily support them....

but until changes are seen the be made then these stories will continue to surface.......
 
joeanne said:
Just so we are clear I will answer how I see fit....I cannot respond any differently than how I see it.
And I ask questions because perhaps there MIGHT be a valid reason you can give me....
Contructive? Sack your CEO, shake up the whole place by the foundations and get back to what was once a GREAT organisation!
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Valid reason? Sack your CEO? Who do you think i am?!
 
joeanne said:
I am not saying it should be the responsibility of the RSPCA.
I am saying there should be facilities to store stray horses in every county.
And if they are not claimed after seven days, then they should be slaughtered and sent to longleat.
Any real owner will find a missing horse in hours if its chipped and they know where to look (namely the "horse pound").
In fact it would lessen the burden on ALL charities if this was the case!
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It's a completly logical way to solve the problem.
Shame we are not in charge .
 
sussexbythesea said:
Agree with this -Wouldn't this just encourage more people just to tie their horse to a lampost though if they knew it was guaranteed to be picked up by the Police or RSPCA?
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responsible horse owners would, if their horses escaped make every effort to get them back and pay livery fees etc. However the ones that get dumped, their owners dont care what happens so long as its not their problem
 
joeanne said:
Not if knackerman shoots them on site.
You don't need a passport for a dead horse (I think?)
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That will cost money. The area I worked had a pound I won't tell you the problems they had it was a nightmare they where basically used as a free veterinary service then the 'owners'who where magically invisible when we looked for them broke in and took them back it was like the wild west.
 
agree with all at this point on what needs to happen, re the local authorities tackling these issues, but it would cost money whichever way you look at it, and in this economy when half the council staff are being laid off etc, I can't see them doing anything anytime soon... unfortunately. But if someone sets up an e-petition to try to get them to sort this issue out, i'll be there to sign it.
 
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Goldenstar said:
I DO NOT think the RSPCA need to be anyway involved in this some where along the way we have to drop this ridiculous idea the the RSPCA have be involved in everything to do with animals they are a charity nothing more.
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charities should not become political the RSPCA has managed to loose its way and stuck its fingers in to many pies
 
joeanne said:
This is totally true.
However if you only bring cases that are very likely to succeed........
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which as i said earlier is exactly the same as the CPS who have a much lower success rate. It's also as it should be, why bring a case to court if you do not believe yourself that you have sufficient evidence to prove your case???
 
MillyMoomie said:
Im afraid statistics in this instance cannot be manipulated. All facts and figures are available for people to peruse if only they would.
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Sorry to disagree with you, but they can show statistics of cases they took to court and they won 98% of those. what about the ones they decided not to take to court at all
 
harveysmom said:
Sorry to disagree with you, but they can show statistics of cases they took to court and they won 98% of those. what about the ones they decided not to take to court at all
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Why on earth would any prosecutor take a case to court without sufficent evidence to win? That makes no sense whats so ever.

Unless im missing something?
 
MillyMoomie said:
Why on earth would any prosecutor take a case to court without sufficent evidence to win? That makes no sense whats so ever.

Unless im missing something?
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Ha the CPS wont run cases they say there isnt enough evenidence however isnt that for the jury to decide... rapists and attackers walking free beacuse of the flaming CPS...

they should be called the criminal protection service!!!

IN MY OPINION!!!
 
Springy said:
And lets not mention the money they have just spent prosecuting a hunt as Im sure there are threads on that already...
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yes been done to death, cps declined to take the case, rspca took it and won, some people think waste of money, equally others think money well spent. Can we end that one there!!!!!!!!
 
MillyMoomie said:
Why on earth would any prosecutor take a case to court without sufficent evidence to win? That makes no sense whats so ever.

Unless im missing something?
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The public interest , the CPS make a judgement based on what's in the public interest on whether a difficult case should come before a court that's right and proper .
In the case of animal cases the RSPCA a charity with its own agenda makes a judgement based on its interest on whether a case comes before a court.
My view is this is no longer a situation that is acting in the public interest and the police and the CPS should undertake this role.
 
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