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OK neglect post got me think!
RSPCA is quick to come out to perfectly healthy horses
i know this because over 6 months i had them out every second day to explain

my daughter had a section A called jewels he was on a 4 acre park and came down with bad laminitis so having lush grass (summer)in his park i placed him on my back garden (stone walls fencing it off) with no grass just dead grass and about acre 1/2 in size he was put on hay with feeds as he had no grass i had people feeding him lush grass so i placed feeding will kill this horse i had RSPCA inspector out and i happily showed him my pony and feed and hay i had he was happy and left 2 days later another came who was quite nasty spoken with me until they saw 25 bales of hay and wheelie bins full of food and that jewels was of a good weight for a laminitic pony! this carried on for 6 months till be went back into his park when he was ready not when RSPCA and public said

so why can they come out to me every 2 days but not to horses who really need it? Anyone else had similar happen?

here is my pony i had for daughter
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It discrasefull isnt it, how someone like James Grays daughter can keep 2 horses beacuse they're not negelected enough to take away! makes me mad, yet yourself had so much hassel.Its crazy isnt it, My dad always says innocent ppl get noticed more yet the guilty get away with things for a long time.
 
dont get me started on them == it raises my temper ! they can come out because of a muddy field == hello this is england ! where the travellers tether and is very muddy where the horses go round and round - well thats fine ! they can come out because there is 6 bits of ragwort we missed in the field , however the travellers the other side of the motarway have a carpet of the stuff - you cant see the 30 youngsters without looking hard , but thats ok too. in the summer they never have water all time as the buckets are upturned, hey thats fine ! so many things , thin dogs , starved chickens its all fine. yet all the normal horse owners live in fear of being reported for no good reason , other than they have fallen out with someone, or have an overweight dog ! god forbid ! or fleas !!! its not good its not right and it needs to change .
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It does need to change and travelers and their animals make me mad, how can it be save the teather a horse to the ground as they do where they cannot move to circulate the blood around their legs! I hate seeing that and there is a travellers yard on the way to Newmarkets i think (well there used to be ) and you could see their horses and it used to break my heart
 
In the north east a friend told me, the rspca had been called about a thin horse. They turned up to a farm saw the horse (which was extreamly thin) throw a bucket of water over it then started taking photo refusing to listin to the YO. Turned out the horse was rescued by a vet, and was on strict recovery diet getting all the care it needed. This case I think they said went to court ????
 
the rspca are bullies. they seem to like to pick on innocent owners doing , what they believe , is the best for their animals. taking a pensioners dog away and prosecuting , for instance , makes my blood boil, they have almost unlimited funds , they could help these poor people. they are out to prosecute people not really help animals. they only finally did something about JG as there were so many people involved. my friend had her old pony put down as he was old and thin. he was eating and was happy and saw the vet regularly , but she was terrified of what people would think and of the rspca ! the trouble is as you say , is they WONT listen --- to anybody --- she could have explained and all would be fine, but if they needed a prosecution that month then they would say you couldnt keep a pony in that condition. i have known them go above prominent vets who insist that horses are fine and draft in their own little clones who say whatever they want them to. also they wont listen to people reporting things if it doesnt suit them -- many many times as you all know . i am sure this isnt what the good people who founded this society wanted == well paid bigots who put the actual welfare of many animals very second ! the general rspca ground workers are mostly genuine animal lovers caught up in a beaurocratic system and a lot become very disalusioned with it all. it should be non profit making and no high earners ! i think the hhos should set up an alternative rspca !!!!
 
RSPCA =HYPOCRISY.. they drive me mental! Its the only bloody walfare organisation I know who will happily euthanise a healthy animal!

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Oh and your not alone.. they once come out to Ted because he was 'Under weight' come off it.. he was a TB gelding who had been out of racing a matter of months and was on the low side of a score of 3.. any more weight and he would of been lame.. tossers.

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An alternative RSPCA!!! Ummm!!!!

I think that the funds would be an issue there!! Plus the money to successfully prosecute!
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However, there is a very valid point here. There could be someone in each area, with the names and numbers to the various equine rescue charities in the area. They could take details, and report them to the organisations in the area. Also, a list of people willing to give temporary shelter in the area, working with the various rescue organisations!!

It's a network really, I'm sure they do have these things, but you never know!!!
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I am not a fan of the RSPCA at all. I have phoned them twice - once when a tame ferret appeared in the yard. They refused to take it as 'they are difficult to rehome' and told me to keep it.

Then a couple of weeks ago my cat went missing. I rang my local branch (Chobham). All calls go to answerphone and the message says 'if you are phoning about a sick or injured animal phone a vet, if you are phoning about a stray dog phone the council, etc etc' Basically phone anyone else, but don't phone us! And then it finishes by saying 'this answerphone doesn't take messages' and cuts you off. Brilliant.....
 
I stopped giving to the RSPCA many years ago - I prefer to give money to other animal welfare charities. The RSPCA is far too political and the final straw for me when when they spent a huge amount of money on Anti-hunting campaigning. Now, I do realise and totally accept that many animal lovers are against hunting but I very much resented the amount of money that was spent on this issue that most people had given for direct action against individual cases of cruelty or neglect. It seems to be a common issue, as highlighted on this thread, that they seem happy to come out to cases where it turns out nothing is wrong but refuse to come out to more clear cut cases, even when they have been reported many, many time. We have traveller horses kept locally, often if full sun during the summer with no water - they have never responded to my knowledge but someone in the village had them out to check out her horse which was reported as having a blindfold on - it was a fly mask!!
 
the rspca rely on us lot giving donations ! an alternative group could fund raise and re-route those donations !!!! the rspca waste loads of that money on little luxuries - i visited a london office of theirs and they had new wilton carpets and the most luxurious office for the time ! why waste those kindly donations on keeping those smelly old mutts alive when you could put them to sleep and increase your bonuses two fold !!!!!!!!!! also i think that the cps should prosecute as it is a criminal offence , so campainging needs to be done to change the law there. from seeing the way this forum has pulled together over the last 24 hrs i think it could be possible. i think we all have what rspca bosses seem to lack - apart from integrity-- a genuine concern for animals.
 
Agree with the unnecesary spending Ellaman. The problem with your point about prosecution is that the CPS is already overstretched and many of these cases simply wouldn't get to court. By bring private prosecutions the RSPCA does at least ensure that many cruelty or neglect cases do actually get dealt with! I don't have an issue with this aspect at all, just the way it is all administered.
 
take on American law on it! they prosecute cases of neglect

if i had £! for times ive had RSPCA called out i would be rich each tim ethey have said "nothing wrong" " you know what you are doing" "we have to follow up reports we get"

WHY THE HELL ARENT THEY IN STAMFORD NOW THEN!
 
I have to say i lost real faith on monday after we found a skinny male dog running around the streets close to our home.
Despite it taking hubby and I an hour to catch him with him snarling at us and running into traffic the local police and council didn't want to know.
When we had finally caught him the rspca, police, council etc took the view he was now our problem.
We in the end had to get the home phone number of an rspca officer from our local kennels who told me how to "beat the system" to get him dealt with.
Luckily the dog had now had medical treatment and has been reunited from the owners who's garden he had escaped from.
 
tbh the cps should proscute these cases ( in an ideal world ) the cases that do reach court through the cps are sometimes astounding -- neighbour swears at neighbour and such crap, these are the waste of time cases. perhaps we could ge
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t legal aid to prosecute - everyone else does !!!! ( joke )
 
I get them fairly often here as I have miniature ponies which are easier kept on starvation turn out then supplimented with hay than trying to keep them trim on lush grazing. I am right by a footpath, so come the good weather, come the RSPCA inspectors!

Usually once they have been out they are fine, but I have had the odd one or two that didn't know their bum from a hole in the ground where horses were concerned! One thought they were foals and should be with their mums, the youngest is four! One thought they were shetlands, till I producad their passports, and my favorite one who had a real go that one of my ponies as far too fat and was threatening to remove her despite my explanations, so I rang my vet to explain to her that she was actually in foal and just over her due date. She got quite shirty after that!!

Add to that when I was looking for a new dog they basically told me to get lost as they didn't ike my lifestyle. I'm home all day on my own yard, but they thought I was outside too much!!!! Fortunately the dog I then bought loves his life outdoors in the fresh air!
 
just remembered wasn't till i spoke to a old friend on phone when my horse basil passed away in November i had them out!

what happened was on 14th nov 2005 my boy came down with colic to cut long story short hed been on bute before i got him for years and i weaned him off it with vets help colic stress was to much from his heart and on 15th nov he had a heart attack and died i was distraught as i hadnt lost my horse id lost one of my kids i covered him in a big blanket (he passed in field at 9amish) while i called round to get him cremated finally found some where and they said they would pick him up at 10pm, at 1pm i had police and RSPCA at door because someone saw a horse skinny and thrashing on floor not 20 mins ago and they rushed out because i was beating it???? they got really nasty with me saying i was going to be prosecuted wasnt until my vet who i obviously called when he passed came down to check on me that she called time of death at 9.20 as he was dead on site 100% fine and colic stress had finished him! i got no sorry nothing they just left after taking pictures which i demanded were deleted

he looked like this before he passed
R,I.P my baby boy (have him cremated and in a beautiful box)

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I wanted to be a RSPCA inspector many years ago beacuse I wanted to do some good and help poor neglected animals But then learnt I didnt have the right exam grades to do so. But looking at it now most of their rules and regs would drive me mad being told i cant do nothing about animal X beacuse its not neglected enought! thats BULL!
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A local racing yard was reported to the RSPCA for blistering a horse.
F***ing CLUELESS 'inspector' turned up and said "You have a horse with a blister?"
Trainer showed them the bandaged leg, and RSPCA left, happy that the horse's blister was being treated.
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When the ILPH turned up the next day, they couldn't find a blistered horse. It had been moved after the RSPCA visit.
 
Yep, either injected or applied to an injured leg. It can be applied with the likes of toothbrushes or nail brushes to remove the hair
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Well!

I had one out yesterday, which I called sunday, too look at a cat, who belonged to the person over the road from me, who couldn't give a rats arse, he was riddled in fleas, his body was covered in matts, he had a huge lump on his lip, although it did pop yesterday, eye infection and flies all over his back, he was thin, he looked 14 and it turns out he was 8! the officer poped his head in the cage and said there was nothing wrong with him, all he needed was a good brush, bullcrap! never once checked him over! my nan asked him to find him a good home and he said no, she said what am i supposed to do then? His words Ignore him!!! how the hell can you do that.
 
Michelleice - I got turned down by the RSPCA for re-homing a dog as a companion to my lab the other week because I work full time, my partner goes home at lunch and the max they're on their own is 3 hours at a time and they're playing on the yard in the morning and normally out for the whole evening on a walk/ joining me for a hack/playing.. Apparently they "can't abide people who work all the time and don't have time for their dogs and maybe I should consider re-homing my own dog!!" FURIOUS! Can't believe their attitude, they were so rude to me on the phone I have gone off them for life! We ended up getting a puppy and I'm sure this is what a lot of people do.. and he will be loved and go to the beach/woods/play most of the day!!! I just feel sorry for all the dogs who are stuck at the RSPCA kennels that miss out on good homes because of these people in charge!
 
I'm fed up on people bitching about the RSPCA - they are a CHARITY, they have VOLUNTEERS, how dare anyone accuse someone of not caring for animals who gives up their time to help them - do you?!

What is making me laugh is after all this "The RSPCA are terrible for not helping those horses, the WHW are the only useful ones" it has come out that the WHW were JUST as aware as the RSPCA, and had hands tied.

Life IS NOT black and white. I am disgusted at accusations and nastiness. I have friends and family who volunteer for the RSPCA and certainly give up more time to help suffering animals than the majority of posters on this thread I am sure.
 
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