Rubbish disposal - livery yards?

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Out of interest, those of you on a livery yard, what do you do with your rubbish? Do your yards have bins to put your rubbish in, or are you expected to take it home? Do you think the price you pay for livery should include suitable rubbish facilities?

I am just wondering, as I have to take all my rubbish home - as this equates to haylage wrap, numerous shavings bags, and about 10+ feed bags a week, this is far too much to put in our bin at home (which is only collected every two weeks anyway!) At the moment the feed bags are stacking up (these are predominantly paper, so will be burnt eventually...tut tut) the haylage wrap is going in the industrial bin at work, and the shavings bags are going in with our household waste. How do other people manage!
 
I have my own yard and I dispose of all the rubbish. Haylage wrappers, feed bags etc., go in two dustbins. Another bin in the tack room for tea bags, sweet wrappers and biccie wrappers. You shouldn't have to take your rubbish home!
 
I had to take my own rubbish home too. In fact i was taking eveyones home as it was always put in one feed sack but i was the only person who ever took the thing home. My yard prior to that had big barrel bins and it was only a diy yard. Would be nice if they took rubbish away. I could barely fit it all in my wheely bin, what with household rubbish too.
 
Only been at one yard ever that took our rubbish. All others it has been strictly....home and put it in the bins for Mr Dustman to moan at me!
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Am only on a very small yard and we just have a feed bin as a rubbish and my YO take it to the tip when she remembers to!
Am quite
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at having to tak your own rubbish home. Never really thought about it before.
 
I have a yard at my own home - about 16 horses so lots of haylage wrap and bedding bags, plus feed sacks. We are not given wheelie bins or black bin bags at teh yard or house - so we simply use all the plastic feed sacks as rubbish bags and fill them with everything, from haylage wraps to used cotton wool. And put them out with all the household rubbish - no problem whatsoever, it all gets taken. as I have to drive up to the top of our drive with the household rubbish I just chuck in the yard rubbish and take it up myself.
 
At my yard with 22 on full ivery we have three recycling bins. black for general green and brown, we never use brown as it kitchen waste and the muck heap is the same as that but the balck one is always full of haylage wrappers! All my liveries leave their rubbish at the yard. Cannot believe they do not accomodate your rubbish where you are!!
 
My yard disposes of rubbish.

I wonder if you are asked to take yours away because YO not paying business rates and bin men won't take the volume?
 
We are on a large yard and the yard owner has asked us all to take our own rubbish away as it cost them a vast amount per ton to get rid of the rubbish. I guess I am lucky that there is a household rubbish tip in the next town and I can pop the rubbish in the car when I go to do the weekly shop. Normally take one feed bag filled with feed bags and the second one filled with haylege wrapppers about 5-6 per bag.
 
One yard I was at we had to take it all home which is difficult when you have fortnightly collection! Currently we have massive commercial bin as the yard is also a feed merchants, at the yard I was at before they burnt all the rubbish. At work we have a licence to burn some waste so all the paper feed bags and baler twine and vet waste is burnt, the shavings bags are taken to the tip when the SM remembers.
 
Although we are small legitimate yard, the council will only collect our domestic waste, we have to pay for commerical waste clearance, so we request that unless burnable on our bonfire, it has to be taken home otherwise the cost would have to be added onto the livery charge.
 
im sure you can get fined for putting feed bags and haylege wraps ect in you household bins or local tips? (correct me if someone knows better) but im sure its classed as farm waste and must be collected by an appropriate carrier??

the last yard i was at didnt say anything about rubbish except to tidy it up. YO burnt all hers (right next to the stables, love the smell of smouldering plastics
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) and as the local tips round there would check your rubbish ours kind of piled up for a while and went in bulk when we left.... :O
 
Rubbish is a little bit like planing... there are rules but each collection area, usually counties, tend to enforce slightly differently.
As I understand it, if the yard you are at, charges you for livery, it is a business and therefore produces commercial waste. Normal collections from houses are only for domestic waste ( ie from your house and garden). So waste from the yard should be collected seperatley by a waste company for disposal / recycling. This costs (I think) £100/tonne ish when landfill tax taken into acocunt, hence why YO want you to take your rubbish home! otherwise they'd have to pay this and add it to your livery
 
We have bins all over the yard with the empty bedding bags inside instead of bin bags. Every week the staff put them in YO's car and drive it acorss the road to the public dump - rather convenient
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We keep all the empty bedding bags; the shredded paper ones are used as bin bags and the wood pellts bags are filled with sand to weigh the show jumps down in the wind.
 
My farmer who I buy the haylage from delivers it unwrapped and takes away the mesh stuff that holds the bale together. Paper feedsacks are used for lighting bonfires (lots of those, theres a lot of logs, leaves and twigs in the fields) The other general rubbish I take home when the bin liner is full and it goes out with the household rubbish. About a bin liner a month usually.
 
I can't believe how many people are burning rubbish or throwing it in their normal wheelie bin!!!

Most areas (especially if they only have fortnightly collection) have a recycling collection too, paper should go in one of these, or it can be composted. Many areas accept plastic in recycling too. Even if you don't have a recycling collection there are bins at all supermarkets etc and they can be used by anyone.

YOs getting you to take your rubbish home is a bit of a cheat but please everyone try and recycle what you can!

Check your council website for details, in our area they have lots of special schemes to encourage you as they have targets to meet.
 
The trouble is it is commercial waste not domestic recycling.

The council charge me commerical waste rates to recycle. They do actually send inspectors round now and again to check there is no commercial waste going into our domestic bin.

With all the extra hidden costs of running a yard, and being competitive with those that dont bother with insurance, business rates etc, I would actually be running at a loss if I paid commerical waste disposal costs, and to be honest the liveries dont mind and then if they want to recyle their coke cans, plastic bags then they can do.

It is not a bit of a cheat its a fact of life people still want cheap livery, so some things have to be cut back on.
 
I have always been DIY and therefore have always taken my rubbish home and recycled/disposed of it. I suppose if I was on some kind of supported livery i might expect the YO to take some responsibility for it, but TBH many of the yards I have contact with, I am much tidier and more organised than the YO so my level of expectation these days is pretty low
 
But isn't getting your customers to take the waste product of your business home and put it in their domestic waste taking advantage of the council service and council tax payers???

Imagine if my employers made me take home my rubbish from work!!??

Surely waste disposal is part of the service provided by DIY and prices should incorporate this?

I'm sure people could in theory get into trouble for using their domestic bins for disposing of waste from a livery yard.....

Not having a go, I'm just a bit amazed!
 
I think it would be easier for you to contact a house clearance and removal service. They are licensed by the environment agency so you can be sure your unwanted rubbish is disposed of in the most environment friendly way.

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Katt said:
But isn't getting your customers to take the waste product of your business home and put it in their domestic waste taking advantage of the council service and council tax payers???

Imagine if my employers made me take home my rubbish from work!!??

Surely waste disposal is part of the service provided by DIY and prices should incorporate this?

I'm sure people could in theory get into trouble for using their domestic bins for disposing of waste from a livery yard.....

Not having a go, I'm just a bit amazed!
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The rubbish from your work is produced by your work, so it belongs as it were to your work :). Rubbish that is produced in connection with your horse is yours - if the yard produces waste for the running of itself, then the yard should get rid of it, but your feed bags from feeding your horse is your responsiblity if the yard does not provide disposal :). Smiley faces as this is not a dig :)

I've been on both types. The first place we had to take all our rubbish home, which was fine as we just left a carrier bag or feed bag out and took it home at the end of each day :). Even with three horses and four members of family at the yard, it wasn't an onerous amount :). The YO did get a bin in (the big blue type) and increased the livery by £1 per horse per week to cover the cost...
 
We take our own rubbish home... YO used to burn what she could but somebody put an aerosol can in the rubbish which then exploded. Can't blame her for not wanting to continue doing it!

The previous yard I was at all of the livery rubbish (18 horses) went in the YO's bin! Goodness knows how she got her own rubbish in there as well!!!
 
The yard disposed of our rubbish.

Cant you make a regular trip to your local tip?
That way you could recyles as much as possible too.

You could come to an arrangment with the other liveries and take in turns to do this.
 
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