Rude youngster, advice pls

Another element that should be considered, is how having time turned out with others (especially with an older nanny type who will put a youngster in their place without injuring them) improves their manners and social skills.
 
Ditto what everyone else said. That kind of management will completely mess with a youngsters head! You'll prob find her behaviour deteriorates dramatically over the winter.

You are setting yourself up for a failure with that behaviour so don't take the fight on. 'Winning' the fight will be expensive and hard work and loosing won't do her any good either.

Work round it. Tie her up or take her out before putting food in.

And if I were you, make finding better youngster facilities a top priority! You need nothing but enough land, safe fencing and other horses for a youngster. Even if you need to move her away and only see her twicr a week (with someone else checking her obviously)
 
ad lib hay is just providing more than they can eat in the period of time between one lot of hay being given and the next lot being given, so depending on the size of your youngster put 3/4 bale in at night and see what is left the next morning and adjust accordingly
 
ad lib hay is just providing more than they can eat in the period of time between one lot of hay being given and the next lot being given, so depending on the size of your youngster put 3/4 bale in at night and see what is left the next morning and adjust accordingly

I must be being really thick here - but if ad lib is giving them more than they can eat between one period and another, then logically, they just won't eat it until they are ready - I have never had a problem giving ad lib hay to any of mine through the winter and they range from foal to 10 years.
 
Hang on a sec, I asked for advice on bargy behaviour and have taken on board all suggestions, but a certain air to comments is not needed, I am not a beginner but not a pro either, I do personally think 24 hour turnout is better for all horses not just youngsters and do intend to look 4 a stud turnout, am more Dewsbury way so fax is a little far as also have 3 others, she has been left with a full bale tonight so hopefully she is not going to eat all of it lol, I am sure it is linked to lack of turnout but after posts about what people should and should not take on will post some before and after pics all I want is to help my baby be happier
 
But really, how can you be so sure without actually seeing the horse?

Mine was out 24/7 and just in for a feed when he started with the same behaviour. Horses, like people are individuals. What bothers one horse won't bother another.
Thanks I know her conditions are not ideal but she is well cared for. For short term sm going to change her feed pattern don't want her to get used to barging the door.
 
Another element that should be considered, is how having time turned out with others (especially with an older nanny type who will put a youngster in their place without injuring them) improves their manners and social skills.

Just popped in to say that this year I have two of the best behaved yearling colts I've ever had here.

They were put in with the stallion and an older gelding soon after weaning who kept them in order. The stallion would even have a go at them for what I can only think must have been dumb insolence! He'd go at one, ears back and teeth bared, for no apparent reason at all, but without making contact.

We can't begin to know much about the intricacies of the horse social scene but they certainly know and my stallion (who is normally a real softy and ridden by kids) has done a great job of this two. OK, they are Highlands and have a laid back personality anyway, but previous colts have been nippy and would occasionally turn their bums to me, but not this pair who are very easy to handle.

So I'd agree the above. Human chastisement can so often have the opposite effect and the youngster merely learns to protect itself by retaliation. It's all about respect and that needs to be mutual.
 
Can you not look for a 24/7 turnout livery for her for the winter the roultine you have on this yard is not good for a youngster.
She must never run out of hay, on this type of management it's just not acceptable for a youngster to be left with no forage .
 
Hang on a sec, I asked for advice on bargy behaviour and have taken on board all suggestions, but a certain air to comments is not needed, I am not a beginner but not a pro either, I do personally think 24 hour turnout is better for all horses not just youngsters and do intend to look 4 a stud turnout, am more Dewsbury way so fax is a little far as also have 3 others, she has been left with a full bale tonight so hopefully she is not going to eat all of it lol, I am sure it is linked to lack of turnout but after posts about what people should and should not take on will post some before and after pics all I want is to help my baby be happier

If it helps, when I bought my first foal, she was four days old and I was lucky enough to live close enough to the breeder to go see her every day. When she was weaned she and her companions spent their first winter in a paddock with a large barn/former lorry back and they did very well. However, by her yearling year I had to move her so chose a stud which is just over an hour away. I could only see her once a week, due to distance and work - but I loved my time with her and she would come up and say hi (sometimes she would come say hi and go away again, she is a filly after all), others she would stay with me to just spend some time. I loved seeing her out and about and enjoying life. She wintered in a large open fronted barn with turnout on all but the most hideous of weather, the second winter with all her field friends and again did very well. She is now 8 years old and with me full-time and we have the most wonderful relationship. Your baby won't forget you inbetween visits, if she does have to go a bit further away :)
 
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I must be being really thick here - but if ad lib is giving them more than they can eat between one period and another, then logically, they just won't eat it until they are ready - I have never had a problem giving ad lib hay to any of mine through the winter and they range from foal to 10 years.

confused by this
 
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