Rug liner systems...

I use the Bucas Irish turnouts (have 50g, 150g and 300g) with a 100 g select liner, which gives loads of rugging options. I like to have a dry outer rug, if it's been bucketing down, and can swop to a heavier outer at night without having to strip right off. Got most of mine from eBay (secondhand) or Kramers. The necks are separate, they are roomy, horse can get it's head down without the neck straps throttling them and they are, as previously mentioned, plenty long enough. And the temperature range they cover is brilliant, you really do faff much less about which rug to put on!
 
I dont see much point in the liner systems really, or if you get the choice just buy a system with just the main shell and then one weight of under liner - then you can just buy cheaper liners in whatever weights you'd use. I dont even use a liner system at all, I have liners (100g & 200g) which I bought on their own and I just add them underneath my horses usual turnout rugs (not ones specifically designed for liners). The liner system rugs just seem awfully overpriced to me and you dont need the way to "attach" the liner to the outer - I dont and they stay put no problem.
 
I bought a second hand Optimo. It is the best rug I have ever had fit wise. My little bulldog chested cob is skipping round the field instead of shuffling along looking restricted. I paid £110 for it and its nearly new. I couldnt have justified the nearly £400new price tag, but I'd much rather buy a very expensive rug second hand than a cheaper rug new. I'm now slowly building up the liner collection. I've got a 200gm and a 400gm of the proper Optimo ones, and a box full of cheapy Masta/Shires etc in every weight from 50gm up to 400gm+. My plan is to have a 100/200/400gm proper Optimo liners which I can use in various combinations, and then use the cheapy ones when the proper ones are being washed.

It means I have gone from about 30 rugs to 1 rug and a big box of liners. I bought a very cheap second hand PE rug to act as a spare outer just in case.

Just be aware that both PE and the Rambo Optimos are absolutely enormous! I've got down a size and could have probably gotten away withh going down 2.

Highly, highly recommend an Optimo though. The design is just so much better than anything else out there.
 
What is dont like about liner systems is that the outter has shoulder darts but the liners dont and they rub my boys shoulders.
Though i have found that wb do liners with shoulder darts.

I have them in Big Horse Shop rugs.

Thats why I went for the Optimo in the end. The liners have the darts in as well. Might be worth a look. The liners usually fit in different rugs, if they dont its not hard to move the velcro
 
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