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can anyone recommend a good vest of some kind to stop my rugs rubbing my horses main off ?

my two cobs are already in there medium weights :( and they had hardly any main left last year due to there neck covers rubbing :( will putting a fleece under help ?
what about those snuggy hood jams things , any good ?
 
Don't use a neck cover!! Horses coped just fine before these horrible things came into fashion, what's wrong with a good old fashioned grooming to get rid of a bit of mud?!!
I hate it now it's hard to get decent standard necks anymore.
 
Why on earth are they in medium weights already?! Its not cold yet :eek:

A horse only needs its back and loins keeping warm to be ok, they do not require neck covers, leave it off so they have a mane in summer to help protect from flies!
 
Mine can't have necks as he rubs out his mane. He has done fine with standard necks providing they are not too high up his neck (I find the weatherbeeta & JW rugs best for not rubbing). Please do not go as far as using those full face stretchy things to try and get round it they can cause injuries.
 
See what I mean now angelish?

Forget the barefoot taliban, now we seem to have a rug mafia :rolleyes:

Mine doesn't like full neck rugs, so no experience with the full neck under rug things, but I have seen a couple of injuries caused by the ones which extend over the eyes.

Perhaps it's worth asking in CR, they are less dictatorial about other people's rugging choices in there ;)
 
Awesome do I get a shotgun and sunglasses if I'm part of the rug mafia :D

My vets the same RF lol - so many ignorant owners cook their poor horses thinking theyre looking after them :rolleyes:
 
TigerTail said:
Awesome do I get a shotgun and sunglasses if I'm part of the rug mafia :D

My vets the same RF lol - so many ignorant owners cook their poor horses thinking theyre looking after them :rolleyes:
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And plenty of others know their horses as individuals and rug accordingly :cool:

Sunglasses we can certainly organise, have to check the t&c's about shotgun use ;)
 
angelish, could you maybe sew a strip of smooth, satiny material in to the inside of the neck covers ?
I find the best rugs for no or minimal rubbing are the ones with a polyester/equinylon type lining rather than cotton or cotton mix. I had a Welsh D mare last winter living out in a 200g Weatherbeeta Genero combo, my New Forest in a Fal half neck (she doesn't like full neck/combo turnouts) and neither had any mane rubbed.
Another pony I had before these 2 was living out in a Masta combo with nylony lining and her mane wasn't rubbed either.
I'd avoid the lycra hoods that cover their faces as it would be too easy for the hood to slip/twist over the horses eyes and could cause an accident.

Rhino,:D:D:D, barefoot taliban :rolleyes: :D....rug mafia :rolleyes::D....lol ! True though, you can't seem to do anything these days without someone saying it's wrong :p.
 
LittleWildOne said:
angelish, could you maybe sew a strip of smooth, satiny material in to the inside of the neck covers ?
I find the best rugs for no or minimal rubbing are the ones with a polyester/equinylon type lining rather than cotton or cotton mix. I had a Welsh D mare last winter living out in a 200g Weatherbeeta Genero combo, my New Forest in a Fal half neck (she doesn't like full neck/combo turnouts) and neither had any mane rubbed.
Another pony I had before these 2 was living out in a Masta combo with nylony lining and her mane wasn't rubbed either.
I'd avoid the lycra hoods that cover their faces as it would be too easy for the hood to slip/twist over the horses eyes and could cause an accident.

Rhino,:D:D:D, barefoot taliban :rolleyes: :D....rug mafia :rolleyes::D....lol ! True though, you can't seem to do anything these days without someone saying it's wrong :p.
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thanks for the only useful reply :rolleyes: :)
i'd never thought of sewing slippy material into the inside of the rug that might just be worth a try thanks :)
i love weatherbeater rugs and they seem to fit the big one great but don't seem to be any good for the little one it must depend on the shape of the horse

i'd love to get hold of an old fal rug, the new ones just are not the same and despite being nice and light it rubbed him terribly and i had to sell it :(
 
No one is dictating - just giving replies!!! obviously the replies are not what the OP wanted to hear......This is a forum people have opinions and nothing nasty has been written on this thread. Makes you not want to bother giving advice. The quite obvious answer to manes being rubbed out by neck rugs is not to use one...Even with satin sewn in these things do tend to damage manes, especially on the more cresty cob types. My welsh D cannot wear a neck rug, he overheats too. My skinny neck trotter cross can wear one and has no problems with it, personally I do not like them and think they do more harm than good.
 
angelish said:
thanks for the only useful reply :rolleyes: :)
i'd never thought of sewing slippy material into the inside of the rug that might just be worth a try thanks :)
i love weatherbeater rugs and they seem to fit the big one great but don't seem to be any good for the little one it must depend on the shape of the horse

i'd love to get hold of an old fal rug, the new ones just are not the same and despite being nice and light it rubbed him terribly and i had to sell it :(
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Don't tell anyone but having fully finely clipped my hairy bear at the weekend and he is still living out 24/7 he last night got his medium weight on along with its neck. Why?Because its suddenly gone from 20 degrees to 3 Degrees Wind and Rain in 24 hrs and also I took away his own central heating so rug mafia bog off.:D

However, I have found that Amigo's and the Horseware Ireland ones don't rub out manes as they have the detachable necks whereas the rugs with full necks attached seem to rub. Don't know why but there is another to add to the list.:)
 
I am also concerned with rugs rubbing manes, however my boy is quite broad so has got weatherbeeta rugs, but I was asking my friend the same questions as both h/w stable & t/o have necks :eek: hehe, so anyway she usually sprays mane and tail in the necks, and on the wither areas of rugs without necks and she finds that works for not rubbing the manes, watch this space this winter...... ;)
 
maisie06 said:
No one is dictating - just giving replies!!! obviously the replies are not what the OP wanted to hear......This is a forum people have opinions and nothing nasty has been written on this thread. Makes you not want to bother giving advice. The quite obvious answer to manes being rubbed out by neck rugs is not to use one...Even with satin sewn in these things do tend to damage manes, especially on the more cresty cob types. My welsh D cannot wear a neck rug, he overheats too. My skinny neck trotter cross can wear one and has no problems with it, personally I do not like them and think they do more harm than good.
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But when someone comes on looking for suggestions of neck rugs/under rugs, and you heavily imply she is only rugging for fashion, and because she can't be bothered rugging, it's hardly helpful.

Neck rugs aren't 'horrible things,' they serve a useful purpose for some horses. So you don't like to use them personally? Neither do I, but I don't judge others who do :)
 
I am not judging at all....just simply giving an opinion. I am afraid yes, it is blunt. But I do not pussy foot around trying to make people like me!! I say it how it is. If you don't like it put me on user ignore or don't read my posts - simples! :-))
 
You are the one making things personal - so YOU deal with it. I remember not so long ago when you spent most of your time tearing my replies to shreds. I must remember not to post on this forum as I am not a member of the reserved clique.
 
Oh dear. It seems that you are the one with an issue, so perhaps you would be better putting me on UI. I have never 'trashed' anyone's threads, and have certainly never 'spent most of my time' replying to anyone in particular. The *clique* argument is also getting slightly wearing.

OP - did your horses survive the night, manes intact? :D
 
I have no issue at all with you, apart from the fact that you DO pull people's posts apart if they don't agree with your ideals. Yes this forum is cliquey, but you wouldn't see that being right in the thick of it.
 
maisie06 said:
I have no issue at all with you, apart from the fact that you DO pull people's posts apart if they don't agree with your ideals. Yes this forum is cliquey, but you wouldn't see that being right in the thick of it.
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*sighs*

Can I suggest you either put me on UI or pm me if you feel the need, this thread is taking an even more ridiculous turn now :rolleyes:

I post on here a lot, I have no problem with putting my view across, but most people are capable of having a coherent discussion :)
 
maisie06 said:
Don't use a neck cover!! Horses coped just fine before these horrible things came into fashion, what's wrong with a good old fashioned grooming to get rid of a bit of mud?!!
I hate it now it's hard to get decent standard necks anymore.
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they don't currently have a neck cover, they will have if it gets any colder as that is my personal choice :)

TigerTail said:
Why on earth are they in medium weights already?! Its not cold yet :eek:

A horse only needs its back and loins keeping warm to be ok, they do not require neck covers, leave it off so they have a mane in summer to help protect from flies!
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because there fully clipped and they are cold :rolleyes:

Rose Folly said:
What are they doing in rugs? In September? In neck covers? Just as well you don't have our vet. He tears a strip off people over-rugging.................

No wonder they have no manes.
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again ,my question was was asking if there was anything i could do to prevent rubbing when they do need there neck covers as it is my personal choice to use them ,i'm perfectly capable of deciding what rug i'd like to put on MY horse's

cyberhorse said:
Mine can't have necks as he rubs out his mane. He has done fine with standard necks providing they are not too high up his neck (I find the weatherbeeta & JW rugs best for not rubbing). Please do not go as far as using those full face stretchy things to try and get round it they can cause injuries.
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i have seen the damage they can do :( i'm sure iv'e seen one that stops at the ears ?

rhino said:
See what I mean now angelish?

Forget the barefoot taliban, now we seem to have a rug mafia :rolleyes:

Mine doesn't like full neck rugs, so no experience with the full neck under rug things, but I have seen a couple of injuries caused by the ones which extend over the eyes.

Perhaps it's worth asking in CR, they are less dictatorial about other people's rugging

choices in there ;)
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:D :D :D

TigerTail said:
Awesome do I get a shotgun and sunglasses if I'm part of the rug mafia :D

My vets the same RF lol - so many ignorant owners cook their poor horses thinking theyre looking after them :rolleyes:
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i am not an ignorant owner , what makes you an expert on my horses ? ?

rhino said:
And plenty of others know their horses as individuals and rug accordingly :cool:

Sunglasses we can certainly organise, have to check the t&c's about shotgun use ;)
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indeed :)

maisie06 said:
No one is dictating - just giving replies!!! obviously the replies are not what the OP wanted to hear......This is a forum people have opinions and nothing nasty has been written on this thread. Makes you not want to bother giving advice. The quite obvious answer to manes being rubbed out by neck rugs is not to use one...Even with satin sewn in these things do tend to damage manes, especially on the more cresty cob types. My welsh D cannot wear a neck rug, he overheats too. My skinny neck trotter cross can wear one and has no problems with it, personally I do not like them and think they do more harm than good.
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the replies were not what i wanted to hear because i didn't ask for your or anyone elses opinion on weather i should or should not be rugging my horse's or using a neck cover ,that is how i choose to keep my horses and that doesn't make me an ignorant owner or you lot the right to assume that i am


FlyingCoo said:
Don't tell anyone but having fully finely clipped my hairy bear at the weekend and he is still living out 24/7 he last night got his medium weight on along with its neck. Why?Because its suddenly gone from 20 degrees to 3 Degrees Wind and Rain in 24 hrs and also I took away his own central heating so rug mafia bog off.:D

However, I have found that Amigo's and the Horseware Ireland ones don't rub out manes as they have the detachable necks whereas the rugs with full necks attached seem to rub. Don't know why but there is another to add to the list.:)
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thanks fc hope your boys are well in there rugs :D

KateandSpotlight said:
I am also concerned with rugs rubbing manes, however my boy is quite broad so has got weatherbeeta rugs, but I was asking my friend the same questions as both h/w stable & t/o have necks :eek: hehe, so anyway she usually sprays mane and tail in the necks, and on the wither areas of rugs without necks and she finds that works for not rubbing the manes, watch this space this winter...... ;)
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thanks for the input i will try that :)

maisie06 said:
I am not judging at all....just simply giving an opinion. I am afraid yes, it is blunt. But I do not pussy foot around trying to make people like me!! I say it how it is. If you don't like it put me on user ignore or don't read my posts - simples! :-))
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you are indeed judging ,just because you may not wish to use rugs with or without neck covers does not give you the right to make other people feel like they are making a cardinal sin by choosing to keep there horses differently to you

rhino said:
Oh dear. It seems that you are the one with an issue, so perhaps you would be better putting me on UI. I have never 'trashed' anyone's threads, and have certainly never 'spent most of my time' replying to anyone in particular. The *clique* argument is also getting slightly wearing.

OP - did your horses survive the night, manes intact? :D
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they were lovely and warm (and clean :D ) this morning ,i think i may start there parelli training tomorrow :D
 
Well, I was going to stay out of it, having obviously upset OP, but can't resist coming back in. Not enough to do I guess.

My point was that, put very simply, you might, just might, be over-rugging.your horses, and that, being sticky and hot, they may be rubbing their necks. Because, amazingly, for one of the non-rugging taleban, I do rug my horses if it is necessary. And, I have recently had a very poorly TB RUGGED, yes, RUGGED. But the temperature rose, he got very uncomfortable, and rolled and rubbed in his box until he had made himself quite sore. I unrugged him hastily, and he was a much happier bunny.

And my other worry is this. If in September, with night temperatures varying between 3C, one post tells us, and 12C, what in heaven's name are you going to rug them in if we get a winter like 2010, when round here we had -15C and a wind chill of -30?

Finally, as we DO rug, and DO use neck covers in extreme weather, try a strip of sheeps wool! It worked wonders for one of my livery horses.

Now, to go and sort out the barefoot taleban......................
 
Rose Folly said:
Well, I was going to stay out of it, having obviously upset OP, but can't resist coming back in. Not enough to do I guess.

My point was that, put very simply, you might, just might, be over-rugging.your horses, and that, being sticky and hot, they may be rubbing their necks. Because, amazingly, for one of the non-rugging taleban, I do rug my horses if it is necessary. And, I have recently had a very poorly TB RUGGED, yes, RUGGED. But the temperature rose, he got very uncomfortable, and rolled and rubbed in his box until he had made himself quite sore. I unrugged him hastily, and he was a much happier bunny.

And my other worry is this. If in September, with night temperatures varying between 3C, one post tells us, and 12C, what in heaven's name are you going to rug them in if we get a winter like 2010, when round here we had -15C and a wind chill of -30?

Finally, as we DO rug, and DO use neck covers in extreme weather, try a strip of sheeps wool! It worked wonders for one of my livery horses.

Now, to go and sort out the barefoot taleban......................
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its 4c outside now ,its also chucking it down with a cold wind and there fully clipped ,will i go and take there rugs off ?
 
angelish said:
i have seen the damage they can do :( i'm sure iv'e seen one that stops at the ears ?














the replies were not what i wanted to hear because i didn't ask for your or anyone elses opinion on weather i should or should not be rugging my horse's or using a neck cover ,that is how i choose to keep my horses and that doesn't make me an ignorant owner or you lot the right to assume that i am
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You asked on a public forum, therefore you will get differing opinions, take what you want and leave the rest, but don't moan when someone has a different one to you.
IMO combo rugs are ghastly (even though I do own 2 of the hateful things as one of mine is coloured and needs it before winter dressage to have any hope of staying clean as he lives out!) You like combos - fine. TBH I don't really care what you put on your horses, wrap them in baking foil if you like. If you must use them I have heard that putting lots of pig oil in the mane can possibly help, but once the hair is damaged it's often too late.

As for the hoods that stop at the top of the neck, I *think* snuggy hoods may do them. I have seen them somewhere but my brain won't exactly recall.
 
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