Rug with liner or separate rugs

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Looking at Weatherbeeta TriStar 3 in 1 rug so 100g turnout and 200g liner. My new lad only came with 0g fill Shires turnout and a cheapo medium weight. So I'd like to him a 100g combo and a heavyweight. W'beeta is on offer for £120 but not sure if it'd be a FAFF with liners and wouldn't have another rug as back up. Any recommendations thanks
 
The plus about the liner is that they generally dont hang lower than the outter lair which is what happens if you just put a stable rug on and a 0g over it. But personally i would never pay £120 on a rug lol
 
Been using rugs with liners (mainly Rambo Duo plus one in a PE Trio). Think they are great as you can change the liner according to the temperature.
You could always buy a spare 100g rug with the fittings for liners if you are worried. My Rambo and OE liners are interchangeable with each other.

I do have a bit of a rug fettush with over 70 turnouts for five horses (yes, I know ....) but mainly use the rugs with liners. I do have extra liners so they can be washed regularly - they dry very quickly.
 
In my opinion if you're likely to use a heavyweight often then i would buy a separate rug, if not but you like the thought of having it there if you need it then a liner does the job nicely. If you are likely to use it as both often then just remember you are giving the rug twice as much abuse on the back of your horse so i wouldnt expect it to last as long. For example i have quite a hot horse so even when clipped she has a 200g on in winter, i use a 100g liner if its truly cold cold and thats probably more for me than her but it might happen for 1 day out of the year - the rest of the winter the 100g liner goes inside her stable rug to turn that into a 200g so im not wasting money on another turnout i dont need. On a side note though the TriStar is a lovely rug and seems to really stand up to the elements
 
I have the Amigo liners, and they are good in that they have all the permutations, but it is a bit of a faff changing them - take off the top layer, take off the liner, put a different liner on put on the top layer x as many horses as are kitted out with them. Not like taking one off and putting another on
 
Liners completely changed the way I rug. I tend to be a bit lazy and only clip the liners on at the back rather than attaching them at the shoulders too and this makes them easier to change (if you're really lazy and your horse is really well behaved you can even just undo the front straps and the tail strap and pull it off from underneath, although probably not the PC thing to do...) and they've never yet slipped. It also means that they'll go under any rug so that if the top one does get wrecked you can use the liners with another one too or if you use stable rugs the liner stays on and the top rug gets switched etc etc. sooo many options with them.

The liners are also easy to wash so can be washed throughout the winter in a normal washing machine rather than just being sent to a company at the end of the winter when they're disgusting.
 
Ive recently bought the Weatherbeeta Comfitec 100g with 2oo liner. I was a bit hmmm about the neck cover at first as I felt it gaped but up to now overall Im really happy with it. It fits well, has stood up to the awful rain, isnt heavy when wet and is really well made. I havent used the liner yet but so far so good
 
I prefer separate rugs on the whole. In the stable I find it simpler to be able to add a layer at night and take it off again in the morning, and for turnout I prefer to just have the horse wearing one rug and then sending it to be cleaned when it's time to change between light/medium/heavy. I am probably influenced by the fact that my horse is in livery, so most rug changes are done by staff who have limited time and don't want to be faffing about with extra clips and velcro and liners, so it's easier with less potential for mistakes if he has the blue one for the stable during the day, with the red one over the top at night and then just the green one for turnout or whatever. I do have a waterproof liner for one of his sweet itch rugs, and that seemed to cause all manner of confusion, so I tend to steer clear otherwise.
 
I think it depends on the horse. As this one is new you won’t know if it’s a rug terrorist yet or not! I’ve got both expensive rugs and cheap rugs and liner rugs and normal rugs. My preference now is for gallop or shires rugs at 30/40 quid which I use for 2-3 years then sell for a tenner. I don’t wash or repair rugs I just replace. I don’t have any horses who are really hard on rugs tho so they are never filthy or wrecked.
 
i love the idea of rugs with lines/ detatchable necks ect as you can get about 4 rugs in one .... but having purchased one of these I still have about 3 back ups in each weight in preparation for any winter downpoors and the worry of not being able to dry it out fully on a cold winter night
 
FfionWinnie said:
I think it depends on the horse. As this one is new you won’t know if it’s a rug terrorist yet or not! I’ve got both expensive rugs and cheap rugs and liner rugs and normal rugs. My preference now is for gallop or shires rugs at 30/40 quid which I use for 2-3 years then sell for a tenner. I don’t wash or repair rugs I just replace. I don’t have any horses who are really hard on rugs tho so they are never filthy or wrecked.
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Ooo... if you are ever selling any please let me know... I have a committed rug wrecker who only deserves £10 or less rugs.
 
I prefer under-rugs to liners - I use Amigo Insulators and Maxima Versimax - these are cut to fit snugly under turnout rugs (unlike standard stable rugs that tend to poke out beneath and get filthy). I find that generally I only need a couple of turnout rugs for each horse - a no-fill and a MW, then I can change the weight according to which under-rug I put on. As someone else pointed out above, they wash really easily in a normal washing machine and dry quickly too, so you can keep the horse's skin and coat clean even if the outside of the turnout rug is caked with mud!
 
I like the outer rug and liner system; I currently use PE. My mare is hot and even with a chaser clip last year she never wore more than the 100g liner in the 70g outer. I can whip the liner out while she's still wearing the rug but haven't worked out how to put one in without talking off (yet!).
 
I got the Fal Pro liner system last year, really made a difference IMO. He's quite a hot horse so never needed to use the 300g liner. It came with two hoods as well. Really pleased with the lot.

I do still keep a few spares, just in case. He's not a rug wrecker proper, but he is playful!
 
TGM said:
I prefer under-rugs to liners - I use Amigo Insulators and Maxima Versimax - these are cut to fit snugly under turnout rugs (unlike standard stable rugs that tend to poke out beneath and get filthy). I find that generally I only need a couple of turnout rugs for each horse - a no-fill and a MW, then I can change the weight according to which under-rug I put on. As someone else pointed out above, they wash really easily in a normal washing machine and dry quickly too, so you can keep the horse's skin and coat clean even if the outside of the turnout rug is caked with mud!
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hmm see because our rambo/rhinos have leg arches the amigo insulators definitely poke out there.

I used to have multiple rugs when they were cheaper ones and didn't dry so well over night (including linings). F's rhinos have taught me that is fine so if I were to start again I'd probably just buy a rambo with liners. I have a 100g with a 300g liner that I bought 2nd hand for 40 quid (having a 300g liner seems excessive!). with a 100g liner that would see us through all of winter if I wanted it to but we already have others.
 
terrierliz said:
I love rugs with liners - liners fit in the washing machine and dry quickly so easier to clean.
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^^this
I find keeping the inside layers really clean helps to avoid rug rubs so I love having liners. I've also been known to whip a liner out when the rug is still on :o really not difficult or time consuming. If it's really cold one day then I sometimes take the outer off and leave the liner on to stick under a stable rug.

I tend to use the same outer all year round as both of mine have 0g Rambos, which I can then add to as required. Means there's only one rug to scrape the mud off at the end of the winter, only one rug hanging around when they are in their stables, and because the outers are really good quality I have never needed a spare one to put on (though I do have one, in case of emergency!) helps that my horses wear the same size so I can swap and change as necessary.
 
I'm same as millipops above love my liner rugs i have the amigo ones. I've got two 0g amigo bravo's and a loads of liners and just use those throughtout the year. Use the liners with my stable rug as well. Im a total convert to the liner system.
 
I have a no fill, MW and HW and then a 50g, 100g, 200g liner.

I clip in at the back, never bother at the shoulders. Quite often just undo the front and whip it off if not needed, even the 3yo doesn't care!
 
This will be my first winter with a rug/liner system rather than different weight rugs, and I can't wait.

I love the idea that I can wash the liners myself....

Fiona
 
I use liners a) because I can use a lighter turnout rug and b) they stop the underneath of the turnout rug getting sticky with goo (grease off the horse). I hate putting sticky gooey dirty rugs on my horses...
 
I brought a PE lightweight last year with the option to add liners ... It was so mild we didnt get further than the lightweight all winter but hey, ?I have the option, lol. Brought a heavyweight rug years ago ... NEVER used it. I much prefer doing layers. That reminds me i should sell it!
 
I love lighter rugs & liners,I don't find them particularly faffy. I use Rambos on one horse, the other horse I tried the Weatherbeeta rug & liners,I really liked that as well but it rubbed her chest & shoulders a lot,however she is odd shaped & difficult to fit rugs to in general. The liners wash well & dry really quickly. I usually don't bother doing the shoulder bit up just clip in at the back,I've even forgotten that sometimes & never had any slipping. As someone else said if your horse will tolerate it, you can pull out the liner without even removing the top rug!
 
Bucas Select rugs are the BEST rugs I've used. So fast to put on, attach to each other etc and there are a whole load of other rugs you can get to attach underneath as well as quilts such as coolers, therapy rugs etc. You can also buy the quilts with stay dry lining that you can literally put on a wet horse and not worry about them getting cold as the material wicks it away and dries it up. They're cut and darted in such a way they literally sit away from the shoulder, so they're not touching it and won't rub; a must have for my sensitive fully clipped TB.

Absolutely love them, superior quality and fit-really true to size. And they look incredibly smart, too :)
 
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