AmyMay
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No she hasn't.
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No she hasn't.
AmyMay
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Ok, I'll dumb it down for you, as I'm sure op did when she convinced you on how much her horses mean and the real reason she wants to get rid
£200 is not a large amount of money when you own a horse. I doubt that would cover more than 4 Weeks upkeep.
£200 cash in your wallet to go out on a Saturday is a large amount of money.
Do you understand now? Or are you going to tell me your horse/s cost you £200 a year?
P.s excuse sarcasm.
Sarcasm excused, and I still have no idea what point you are trying to make
JosieB
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I would say the point is that £200 is not a lot to spend when you own horses.
I spend that just renting a field for the month. If you can't afford to spend £200 on your horses then you really shouldnt have them.
I spend that just renting a field for the month. If you can't afford to spend £200 on your horses then you really shouldnt have them.
Moomin1
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AmyMay
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Moomin1
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If OP gave a little more input then maybe we would be able to help more?!
Why is OP wanting to pts? What options has she tried already?
Why is OP wanting to pts? What options has she tried already?
Venevidivici
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There's a 'sanctuary' near us...and if I was ever,ever in the position where I could no longer afford to keep my horse and/or our pony (and had exhausted all other avenues/possibilities) there is no way I could sleep at night if I'd sent them there. They mean well but....like many places;overstocked,underfunded,overburdened,under-knowledged(I know that's not a word:-/ ) and it's a s*#*hole. Pts with the one who you know,who loves you, is a better fate than that.
JosieB
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I thought it was asking if a sanctuary would accept them if they didn't look like hayracks? Regarding the bit about no money.. Load of tosh.. Get down the pawn shop or cash converters. It's 200 not 2000!!
superted1989
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I was quoted £750 to have my lovely old Ted PTS and the body disposed of (we're on an Island so have very high transport costs because of the ferry and no big animal crematorium). That was on top of a £400 vet bill. He was in pain (unless on massive dose of painkiller, hence vet's bill), so, I did a bit of begging!
YO agreed for him to be buried on the farm (she had permission for 3 horses when her own horse passed away) Total cost then was £150, our old (retired) knackerman shot him and we hired a digger to dig the hole next to YO's horse.
Sounds a bit stark and brutal, but, for Ted and myself, it was the right thing to do. I could have found the money, but my family would not have liked it and I wouldn't ever have been allowed to have another horse!
YO agreed for him to be buried on the farm (she had permission for 3 horses when her own horse passed away) Total cost then was £150, our old (retired) knackerman shot him and we hired a digger to dig the hole next to YO's horse.
Sounds a bit stark and brutal, but, for Ted and myself, it was the right thing to do. I could have found the money, but my family would not have liked it and I wouldn't ever have been allowed to have another horse!
Moomin1
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Yes but the point is - OP knew her horses were getting older therefore she should have been more prepared for this eventuality. I see OP is a student or has recently been a student - well she must have known that she may struggle financially before she became a student. It sounds like the whole situ hasn't really been thought through properly.
Moomin1
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Agree. At the end of the day there are always ways and means. Look around the house - sell stuff, or get to the bank and take a credit card account out/loan!!! Ask family and friends if you could borrow. It is not a large amount of money in the grand scheme of things.
JosieB
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I am sure she will find £200 spending money for her holiday.
AmyMay
Situation normal
True, I don't disagree with much of what you've said. But as we don't know the personal circumstances that have led her to this situation none of us can really comment can we?
JosieB
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Yes we can. She has posted on a forum.
AmyMay
Situation normal
Eh?
Moomin1
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No, but OP took it upon herself to ask this question so really if she wants more informed and sympathetic answers then she should elaborate on what her problems are instead of leaving people to dig for themselves and see on her previous posts that in fact, she has gym membership, and an upcoming holiday abroad (which prize or not - I'm afraid we all know full well you still end up spending a lot of money when there).
People may be less riled by the situation if they knew more?
Ladydragon
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Perhaps...but is a story that garners sympathy going to alter genuine advice suited to a factual situation or just prevent personal judgement?
From what I understand, the OP can't afford to keep her horses, has considered loaning them as companions and doesn't want to/believe a rescue organisation would be an option... PTS being the other... Circumstances change for people and whether they're irresponsible or just a victim of circumstances doesn't really alter the specific issue imo...
Rescue organisations are already pretty full of aged companions or animals owners can no longer afford to keep for one reason or another... The OP's circumstances and dilemma aren't that unusual...
Little Alfie
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Pass another bottle of red while your'e getting that Pinot Guido
This could be a long one
Mmm "Pinot Guido" that could be our new drink
Ranyhyn
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If we
1)can't comment
2)Can't ask questions
and
3) the OP doesn't reply to genuine suggestions
Exactly why post the thread in the first place?
what did they hope to gain? What ARE we meant to do????Moomin1
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If we
1)can't comment
2)Can't ask questions
and
3) the OP doesn't reply to genuine suggestions
Exactly why post the thread in the first place?
My point exactly!! I just failed to put it as coherently as that!!
Dab
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We can all comment, but by making assumptions about the OP's personal circumstances, as we are not privy to all of the details only snippets from previous OP posts, it is possible that unfair judgements are given.
It is sensible to comment that if you can't afford £200 then you really have no right to own/loan/look after an equine but how many people actually put money aside solely for 'last-resort' equine measures, on the off-chance that our personal circumstances might change over-night and we are without funds or any possibility of obtaining funds?
There for the grace of god we all go, lets hope that there is someone out there who can provide advice and support should it be needed, rather than a lynch mob!
Ranyhyn
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From one circling vulture to another (perhaps? maybe? I don't know quite what the criteria is for this naming?) bullet points always work well
Ranyhyn
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I do think the thing with advice and support is, it's nice when someone gives you some that you respond, you know like answer any questions they might ask in order to try and better ascertain your situation so they can give better advice? Thank people for the time spent suggesting things, say why you can't do certain things maybe. Any of the above would probably do?
"Hi this is Derrick at the samaritans how can I help?"
"erm i dont have any money"
"OK do you have anything you could sell maybe?"
SILENCE
"Ok how about maybe taking a small loan - what's your employment status?
SILENCE
"Do you have family you could borrow from?"
SILENCE
"Could you possibly cut costs in order to make up your money?"
SILENCE
You can see how the whole zero response thing gets hard going when people are trying to help???
Moomin1
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No, we do not all have that extra cash floating around - I for one DEFINATELY do not and have already posted that I find myself a £1000 in debt because of outlandish vet bills and insurance excess etc. But the point is - if we have taken horses or any animal on for that matter - and you need to pts, then I'm afraid you have to FIND the money - and deal with it.
OP appears to have posted that she may be going on holiday shortly, so therefore she couldn't have been so worried about money at that point. The horse's were still old when she posted on that thread, therefore why didn't she use that potential holiday money then, to go towards pts?
Moomin1
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AmyMay
Situation normal
If we
1)can't comment
2)Can't ask questions
and
3) the OP doesn't reply to genuine suggestions
Exactly why post the thread in the first place?
You / We can comment on what we like.
However, my point to Moomin was that as we don' know the personal circumstances that have led the OP to this situation we can't comment on that (only speculate).
Not, or course that any of that matters.
OP can no longer afford to keep her ponies. Loaning is not a realistic solution, and nor is a charity (many of us would agree). So the question of pts has arisen. Some will agree with this, others won't.
Practical advice on how, for as little money as possible, this can be achieved has been given on this thread. And going round the houses on the why's and wherefore's isn't helpful.
It's neither here nor there if the Op has a holiday planned or has gym membership. If she can't afford her ponies (for whatever reason) then a solution has to be found.
So - hands up who has room for two very elderly ponies for long term and forever companions. That would make the OP very happy. I'm sure she'd appreciate a PM from you, so that you can discuss and agree terms and move the ponies to their new home.
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kateo
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A lot of people have offered advice and support. I think 'lynch mob' is a bit unfair. I think people were just pointing out that we all make choices and when you have dependants, sometimes you have to make a scarifice and forgo other luxuries, work more hours, even take out a short term loan to pts (if that was the right decision for the ponies and then pay it back from what would have been spent in caring for them over the next few months) etc. People would be able to tailor their response better to the OP's individual circumstances if they knew what they were.
JosieB
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What area is the Op in then Amy?
Moomin1
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Yes, suppose so. However still very frustrating that OP appears to have the money to do those things but was wondering whether a charity would mop up the 'mess' relating to her ponies who no doubt have served her well over the years.
Then again, maybe OP has suddenly within the last few weeks lost a lot of money and is now not going on holiday or going out or spending money on clothes, and trying to save every spare penny she has for her horses. That would be the sensible thing to do at this stage.
As I said earlier - IF OP is genuinely in the situation I have just mentioned - then the RSPCA may be in a position to help her with pts if she gives them a call. But if she has any morals and IS still finding money to do all the rest then she shouldn't be laying that cost at a charity's doorstep.