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..Actually on reading that again - yes it bloomin' well is here or there whether OP has got a holiday booked or gym membership!! If she didn't then she may well have more money to afford pts!!!

On that note - I recieved a vet bill for my horse's jabs and teeth this morning. I can't afford to pay it at the moment, even though I went to Paris for the weekend the other week, and may indulge in a bottle or two of wine this weekend. Could someone please pay it for me? :mad:
 
Moomin1 said:
..Actually on reading that again - yes it bloomin' well is here or there whether OP has got a holiday booked or gym membership!! If she didn't then she may well have more money to afford pts!!!

On that note - I recieved a vet bill for my horse's jabs and teeth this morning. I can't afford to pay it at the moment, even though I went to Paris for the weekend the other week, and may indulge in a bottle or two of wine this weekend. Could someone please pay it for me? :mad:
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it's alright, just send it to a local charity to deal with :eek:
 
Moomin1 said:
..Actually on reading that again - yes it bloomin' well is here or there whether OP has got a holiday booked or gym membership!! If she didn't then she may well have more money to afford pts!!!
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I suspect the OP thought that having the ponies pts would cost her upwards of £1,000. Now she knows that is not the case she will be reassured that if no homes are offered up through the forum - she can afford to have them quietly pts at home.
 
BoolavogueDC said:
You can see how the whole zero response thing gets hard going when people are trying to help???
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It could be that the OP doesn't want to respond to some questions on an open forum, for what ever reason.

It could be that the OP is trying to sort out problems and can't respond as they are away from their computer.

Is it possible to provide advice with out expecting an immediate or any kind of response.

Does silence from the OP necessarliy mean that advice is not being considered.



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But the point is - if we have taken horses or any animal on for that matter - and you need to pts, then I'm afraid you have to FIND the money - and deal with it.

OP appears to have posted that she may be going on holiday shortly, so therefore she couldn't have been so worried about money at that point. The horse's were still old when she posted on that thread, therefore why didn't she use that potential holiday money then, to go towards pts?
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But could there ever be a circumstance when you couldnt deal with it??? and couldnt find the money???

The whole situation about the holiday does sound fishy but are we in possession of all of the facts to make such assumptions about money being spent on a holiday rather than the ponies???


kateo said:
A lot of people have offered advice and support. I think 'lynch mob' is a bit unfair. I think people were just pointing out that we all make choices and when you have dependants, sometimes you have to make a scarifice and forgo other luxuries, work more hours, even take out a short term loan to pts (if that was the right decision for the ponies and then pay it back from what would have been spent in caring for them over the next few months) etc. People would be able to tailor their response better to the OP's individual circumstances if they knew what they were.
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Indeed no sacrifice is too great to take care of dependents, but could there ever be a circumstance when all sacrificies had been made or were not possible...what to do then?
 
amymay said:
So the question of pts has arisen. Some will agree with this, others won't.
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The question of PTS wasn't what was risen though, the question in the OP was what do I do with them if I cannot afford to have them PTS which imo is slightly different.
 
Dab said:
It could be that the OP doesn't want to respond to some questions on an open forum, for what ever reason.

It could be that the OP is trying to sort out problems and can't respond as they are away from their computer.

Is it possible to provide advice with out expecting an immediate or any kind of response.

Does silence from the OP necessarliy mean that advice is not being considered.
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It could be, but maybe PMing those who bothered to try to help would be polite? It is to me, I suppose maybe that's an individual thing? Who knows.

She/he they weren't away from their computer when I asked the question, hence at the time it was a fair question.

It is, but on a forum, when a user is on line I think netiquette dictates a response is expected and rude if not given? Again maybe it's down to how you comport yourself in general?

Again, see above.
 
I thought the whole point of the whole forum thingy was like an online conversation and like in an conversation where people are being nice/helping and asking questions you respond??

I certainly don't expect a PM but a reply is always polite, I think. But again, that's just the way I feel it's appropriate to act.

You ask for help/advice, people give help/advice. Thank them for help/advice. Or respond. :confused:
 
I think its OK to ignore forum posts tbh. Its often pretty sensible. Plus not responding doesn't mean that the advice hasn't been read and considered. A blanket "thanks for the replies" at the end is polite but its not really important to me.

I think the OP must get by now that sanctuaries are unlikely to be the way forward. :)
 
And as it happens anyway if you look at my posts, I'm just defending why I think people are getting upset about the thread.

I personally haven't questioned the OP on where or how she spends her money - I couldn't care less, if she chooses to live the life of riley and not bother doing the right thing by her ponies, well that's her look out.

I'm more concerned that by asking the OP why she hasn't responded to a few good suggestions YOU deem it fit to call people "circling vultures"? And have posted points to support why people might feel a bit irate about the lack of response.

Again, personally I couldn't give a rats arse if they reply or not :D just playing devils advocate!
 
amymay said:
You / We can comment on what we like.

OP can no longer afford to keep her ponies. Loaning is not a realistic solution, and nor is a charity (many of us would agree). So the question of pts has arisen. Some will agree with this, others won't.

Practical advice on how, for as little money as possible, this can be achieved has been given on this thread. And going round the houses on the why's and wherefore's isn't helpful.

It's neither here nor there if the Op has a holiday planned or has gym membership. If she can't afford her ponies (for whatever reason) then a solution has to be found.

So - hands up who has room for two very elderly ponies for long term and forever companions. That would make the OP very happy. I'm sure she'd appreciate a PM from you, so that you can discuss and agree terms and move the ponies to their new home.
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This was why I asked why OP wanted to have them PTS - I have no idea whether they are just old and OP can't keep them due to finances, or if they are old & ill/require medication etc etc.

If its just financial, would not moving them to grass livery be better? For example, I pay £15 p/w for my field, he's barefoot and as OP stated, one pony is a very good doer therfore wouldn't cost very much at all on this option

If they are in a postition that they desperately need to be PTS, raising money by doing boot sales, credit cards/loans (as others have said), ebaying, tightening your belt (if you normally socialise, have take aways, pay minimum payments on outstanding debts for 1 month etc {only speculting/generalising} ) are obvious ways of raising cash
 
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I'm not being funny, but if she can't find £200 to put the damned animals down which is apparently important then how the effing hell can she find spending money?

It makes me sick, I feed my animals before I feed myself.

I've sold every possession before now to provide to that animals needs.

I've made myself homeless for my animals before now.

I've ruined my credit rating with payday loans etc that I cannot afford to pay back for my animals.

Not just horses, but my dogs and cat.

Worrying about where to go on holiday or a gym membership should be the last thing on Anyone in this positions mind in this situation.

"she will rehome"
"where is she?"
"pm her"

Will she reply? She won't reply here. It has guilt written all over it! I hope she enjoys her holiday and attending the gym, I also hope the guilt lives with her forever.
 
I am really confused by this if OP has decided that she wants to put her elderly Ponies to sleep that is completly her buisness but I find it impossible to believe that if she does not have the money herself at the moment she knows no one who will help her out .
I mean if her partner won't help her whats going on ? There's no way I would be lying in the sun with someone who would no help me out when my back was agaist the wall.
 
A sanctuary is not the way to go here OP.

I have to say it does rather look like a 'ponies are cramping my style' post to the casual observer. However the OP has chosen to confide in Amy May ( who's not exactly a pushover;)) so from this I would conclude that the OP's reasons are credible but not for the public domain.

ETA. If it is because of her relationship with a new man, may I say; he's definitely not worth it.
 
Just wanted to say a huge thanks to those who have PMed me and those I sent PM's too esp AmyMay who was a great help - bless you, thank you.

I did read some of the replies to this thread earlier but could not see why I should reply - it would of just turned into a complete back and forth argument.

Sometimes in life, things aren't all ''dandy'' and circumstances can just suddenly change overnight - I certainly don't want to share my personal life on an open forum.

Anyhow, thanks for taking the time to reply to my thread.
 
Scampi said:
Just wanted to say a huge thanks to those who have PMed me and those I sent PM's too esp AmyMay who was a great help - bless you, thank you.

I did read some of the replies to this thread earlier but could not see why I should reply - it would of just turned into a complete back and forth argument.

Sometimes in life, things aren't all ''dandy'' and circumstances can just suddenly change overnight - I certainly don't want to share my personal life on an open forum.

Anyhow, thanks for taking the time to reply to my thread.
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sorry that you have found yourself in this situation and i hope you manage to sort things out.
 
I'm very sorry, Scampi that you are in this situation and hope you will find a suitable solution. If that helps at all, I had a horse shot by a local knackerman last year and it cost me £150 to put down and collect.

I found this thread very sad, I have to say, although I would love to live in the perfect world that some of the righteous posters live :(
 
OP, hope you find a solution and the best outcome for your horses, whatever it may be.

Going off track here but I am a bit taken aback of those kicking off about not having available money and how nice it must be to pull 'X' amount of money out for horses.

When I had my old pony, I had a £250 nest egg that I'd saved prior to buying him. That was my emergency fund, for insurance excesses, emergency treatment, bedding/feed costs if he needed stabled and if need be, PTS.

If I didn't have the money and I needed it, I would do everything in my power to obtain the money. A bank loan of £200 isn't going to bankrupt most people. Selling a phone, telly etc won't kill you. Asking to borrow money off friends/family is demeaning but sometimes a necessity.

I never used it, and have spent it since selling him, but still keep a spare bit of money handy. I now have a loan mare, and it's reassuring to know I have some money floating around for if, for example, I needed to get to yard but no transport (taxi fare) or Meg needed something urgently and I couldn't get hold of owner/owner couldn't get down.

Maybe it's just me, I know I'm neurotic and obsessive (!) but I feel better sleeping at night knowing I have that cash there.
 
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