Saddest TV programme RIP pony

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Just watched animal 24/7 featuring a pony called Lilah. The saddest thing ive ever seen. A gypsey mare 7 months pregnant so weak and neglected she can barely walk, yet sores on her stifles are due to her being driven recently. Liver damage, neuro damage, blindness.

I actually just properly cried, wtf is wrong with people

RIP Lilah
 
i just was this too, it was so very sad:(:(:(

in contrast to earlier in the week where on the same program they seemed to be doing nothing but causing distress chasing a young colt round a field with ropes that looked in ok condition:rolleyes:
 
yeah, was so so sad, could actually see her swaying and such a pretty little girl too. Hope they got a prosecution and locked up whoever dumped her :(
Was really hoping to see some improvement at the end, at least she was receiving treatment, had people caring for her, and a nice big comfy bed and lots of yummy hay. Best thing for her IMO.
 
NeverSayNever said:
in contrast to earlier in the week where on the same program they seemed to be doing nothing but causing distress chasing a young colt round a field with ropes that looked in ok condition:rolleyes:
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I saw this one and although they maybe could have gone about it better, surely it was in the best interest of the colt (which didn't belong to anyone and had been dumped with it's mother) to remove it from the field rather than wait until it becomes emaciated/ill?
 
twiggly said:
I saw this one and although they maybe could have gone about it better, surely it was in the best interest of the colt (which didn't belong to anyone and had been dumped with it's mother) to remove it from the field rather than wait until it becomes emaciated/ill?
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had it actually been dumped? I must have got the wrong end of the stick as I thought it belonged to whoever owned the rest?

they kept saying about how underweight it was etc and I know it was hard to see under all the coat it had, but it looked ok to me. There are plenty of foals running about unhandled on hillsides with their mothers and it didnt look a 'fine' type. Although if it had been dumped that puts another slant on it.
 
Carlosmum said:
^^^^ me too ! Haven't we all got better things to do than watch daytime TV :)
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Haha, yes! Im on holiday- my first week off in as long as i care to remember and am LOVING a bit of daytime TV and moochy time with my horses. Not having to hurry is lovely.

Ive yet to slip into Jeremy Kyle tho ;-)
 
NeverSayNever said:
in contrast to earlier in the week where on the same program they seemed to be doing nothing but causing distress chasing a young colt round a field with ropes that looked in ok condition:rolleyes:
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Hmmm was that the poor little beggar they chased around for 6 hours and shot 3 times with a dart gun or was that a different episode? Give me a couple of horse savvy people any day, could probably have had the job done in half the time with far less stress.

Thankfully I didn’t watch today’s but RIP poor mare and foal, sleep well.
 
joelb said:
Hmmm was that the poor little beggar they chased around for 6 hours and shot 3 times with a dart gun or was that a different episode? Give me a couple of horse savvy people any day, could probably have had the job done in half the time with far less stress.

Thankfully I didn’t watch today’s but RIP poor mare and foal, sleep well.
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yes that was him, then cornered him with ropes,got a headcollar on him and frogmarched him with ropes round him out and into a trailer.
 
joelb said:
Hmmm was that the poor little beggar they chased around for 6 hours and shot 3 times with a dart gun or was that a different episode? Give me a couple of horse savvy people any day, could probably have had the job done in half the time with far less stress.
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This! I get so frustrated at the way they go about things on this programme, and all the other horses looked pretty poor on that field to me, plus the fencing was barbed wire held up with bits of branches. How on earth people manage to load unhandled youngstock bought at sales without dart guns is amazing really.:rolleyes:

I also thought that the chicken on todays episode was just a White Star, not a cockerel:confused:
 
touchstone said:
This! I get so frustrated at the way they go about things on this programme, and all the other horses looked pretty poor on that field to me, plus the fencing was barbed wire held up with bits of branches. How on earth people manage to load unhandled youngstock bought at sales without dart guns is amazing really.:rolleyes:

I also thought that the chicken on todays episode was just a White Star, not a cockerel:confused:
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I don't suppose it really matters what it was - it was rescued!

Also, with regard the other horses in the field - you weren't present so you have no idea what they did about the rest of the horses or the fencing. There is no point anybody making assumptions or criticisms based on a small bit of footage on telly. This things are edited to just the bits that the film company feel will interest the public.
 
Saw both programmes. Got so angry about the colt. Why they didn't give it enough tranqueliser at the outset is beyond me (If they HAD to do it in the first place) My understanding is that it was born in the field and the mare had been moved off and the foal abandoned. I had it on tape, and it actually had four darts in it, three on one side and one on the other! Disgraceful. But not unusual for this programme.

The mare was aparently dumped in a field which housed traveller's cobs (!) So sad.

Agree about the chook, I thought it was a White Star hen, tend to be a bit flighty. Wanted some but common sense prevailed.:rolleyes: Hope it lays them an egg, they will feel a bit silly then.:D

Work 5am till 8.45 Wed and Fri, so yes, I have nothing better to do. Hate the programme and find Mr doom and gloom depressing, but still watch!:confused:
 
Moomin1 said:
I don't suppose it really matters what it was - it was rescued!

Also, with regard the other horses in the field - you weren't present so you have no idea what they did about the rest of the horses or the fencing. There is no point anybody making assumptions or criticisms based on a small bit of footage on telly. This things are edited to just the bits that the film company feel will interest the public.
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:rolleyes: They said on tv the horses were fine and left them to get on with it - if they were wanting good publicity I would have thought they'd have recommended that things were improved on the tv.
 
Equinus said:
Saw both programmes. Got so angry about the colt. Why they didn't give it enough tranqueliser at the outset is beyond me (If they HAD to do it in the first place) My understanding is that it was born in the field and the mare had been moved off and the foal abandoned. I had it on tape, and it actually had four darts in it, three on one side and one on the other! Disgraceful. But not unusual for this programme.

The mare was aparently dumped in a field which housed traveller's cobs (!) So sad.

Agree about the chook, I thought it was a White Star hen, tend to be a bit flighty. Wanted some but common sense prevailed.:rolleyes: Hope it lays them an egg, they will feel a bit silly then.:D

Work 5am till 8.45 Wed and Fri, so yes, I have nothing better to do. Hate the programme and find Mr doom and gloom depressing, but still watch!:confused:
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'They' is actually a vet who decides exactly what dose to administer with the dart gun. And the adrenalin quite often over rides the tranquilizer - which I am sure as a horse person you will be quite aware of! And yes - it is necessary unfortunately to dart horses from time to time, for public safety as well as the horse's. Back to the chicken - does it really matter? Why would you want them to feel silly? Do you have a personal dislike of that officer or something? Or is the most important thing that the bird was caught and taken to safety?! :confused:
 
touchstone said:
:rolleyes: They said on tv the horses were fine and left them to get on with it - if they were wanting good publicity I would have thought they'd have recommended that things were improved on the tv.
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Well a vet was present and they obviously felt that the horses were fine. RSPCA and police cannot do anything if a vet says the horses are ok. Simples. A notice was probably issued for the improvements made to the fencing etc etc - but more than likely edited out or not filmed - because at the end of the day - who wants to watch an officer sit doing paperwork?!
 
Moomin1 said:
'They' is actually a vet who decides exactly what dose to administer with the dart gun. And the adrenalin quite often over rides the tranquilizer - which I am sure as a horse person you will be quite aware of! And yes - it is necessary unfortunately to dart horses from time to time, for public safety as well as the horse's. Back to the chicken - does it really matter? Why would you want them to feel silly? Do you have a personal dislike of that officer or something? Or is the most important thing that the bird was caught and taken to safety?! :confused:
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For goodness sake, I think people are pretty fed up with botched up jobs tbh. That colt could have been rounded up and herded onto a trailer along with its mother first time round if the job had been done properly in the first place.
Also anyone with a bit of animal sense should be able to tell a cockerel from a hen I'd have thought, and these things do matter when rehousing them.
 
touchstone said:
For goodness sake, I think people are pretty fed up with botched up jobs tbh. That colt could have been rounded up and herded onto a trailer along with its mother first time round if the job had been done properly in the first place.
Also anyone with a bit of animal sense should be able to tell a cockerel from a hen I'd have thought, and these things do matter when rehousing them.
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I didn't watch it but from what I gather it's mother wasn't there.....

Typical HHO users - losing sight of a good job which was the original post. With regard to the chicken again, no it doesn't matter because the officers have contacts who will properly identify anything like that and take them off them anyway. Not every officer is able to identify EVERY animal/reptile/bird they come across - it's just not possible. That's why they have lists of contacts who will do so. For instance some large aquariums will identify spiders, zoos also. They all help out. The officer's job is to just catch it at that point!
 
It's mother wasn't there because they'd already removed it without the colt.

I realise that you are very pro rspca; but I'm afraid I'm past the point of seeing them positively after my own experiences; I've witnessed them when involved with the media too and it was all very staged and not for the animals benefit, I think we shall have to agree to disagree that they are always doing a good job, because in my experience they certainly aren't.
 
actually,i didnt think the darts were administered by a vet at all, it was the female RSPCA officer wasnt it? I dont remember there being a vet there:confused:

also saw the chicken - actually what concerned me about that was that it was housed with a rabbit after they had rescued it! Not ideal, they need very different foods and WILL eat each other's feed, whatsmore a chicken can be very aggressive to a rabbit.

did anyone see what happened to the old guy with the pet meerkat? did they take it from him?
 
NeverSayNever said:
actually,i didnt think the darts were administered by a vet at all, it was the female RSPCA officer wasnt it? I dont remember there being a vet there:confused:

also saw the chicken - actually what concerned me about that was that it was housed with a rabbit after they had rescued it! Not ideal, they need very different foods and WILL eat each other's feed, whatsmore a chicken can be very aggressive to a rabbit.

did anyone see what happened to the old guy with the pet meerkat? did they take it from him?
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The darts aren't administered by the vet - the officer is the trained darter!! There ALWAYS has to be a vet present otherwise the officer isn't allowed to dart. The vet authorises and verifies the doseage and oversees the whole process. Only on vet authorisation can/will the officer dart, and any subsequent darting will be on the advice of the vet also.
 
amymay said:
The original post was about a dead horse................
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Amymay that was a pointless post by yourself because my point was that without the RSPCA having the horse taken into possession and subsequent treatment/euthanasia it would have died a suffering death.
 
Moomin1 said:
The darts aren't administered by the vet - the officer is the trained darter!! There ALWAYS has to be a vet present otherwise the officer isn't allowed to dart. The vet authorises and verifies the doseage and oversees the whole process. Only on vet authorisation can/will the officer dart, and any subsequent darting will be on the advice of the vet also.
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thanks for clarifying - officers are however allowed to pts without a vet if they deem it necessary?
 
NeverSayNever said:
thanks for clarifying - officers are however allowed to pts without a vet if they deem it necessary?
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No not at all. A local authority officer or police officer can do so if it is not reasonably practicable to await a vet's authorisation (ie a cow laying on a train track chopped in half and dying a horrible death infront of them). RSPCA officers are not awarded any powers of law whatsoever with regard a domestic animal.

If it's wildlife however - then yes they may pts without a vet and at their own judgement.
 
Moomin1 said:
Amymay that was a pointless post by yourself because my point was that without the RSPCA having the horse taken into possession and subsequent treatment/euthanasia it would have died a suffering death.
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Not pointless at all - because it made you elucidate on what your comment meant.
 
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