Saddle brand ID from pin

[HorseMaid]

Done to death I know but can anyone give me an idea of what maker this is? I initially thought Paul Jones but they are all PJ.

 

[shortstuff99]

Passier?

 

[HorseMaid]

I don't think so, this is a working hunter type saddle and they do more dressage type don't they?

 

[CanteringCarrot]

Patrick saddlery?

 

[HorseMaid]

Never heard of them, just looked them up and sadly I don't think that's right either!

 

[Glitter's fun]

Prestige Italia?

 

[teapot]

I whacked it into google lens but nothing came up. Will keep searching - it's not stamped anywhere else is it?

 

[HorseMaid]

There's a makers plate but it's worn away - bit of red background and that's it! It definitely looks like it's English made though...

 

[sbloom]

It's possibly Phoenix, just a tiny workshop as is most likely the case whatever "brand" it actually is.

 

[Baywonder]

I think @sbloom could be right.

There was a thread back in 2019 about saddle ID and this looks virtually identical to your head nail.....

Phoenix Saddlery Walsall

Does anyone know anything about this saddle maker? I'm struggling to find anything online...

forums.horseandhound.co.uk

Apologies if the link doesn't work.....

 

[HorseMaid]

Bingo!! I think that's it, never would have found that by myself - confirms it's English leather then, hoping it will fit!